Wayne Police Encrypted

[richee2000]

Tac-1 I'm with you with that Dispatch channels should be in the clear. I get it, you want to know what's going on in your backyard and there is a public perception of the decrease in transparency. But I can tell you as someone who uses ENC daily, its not like we are having super secret comms unrelated to my job...I use Signal for that lol.

What I am against is streaming police channels all over the internet, and hence we have all these PDs flipping the switch. People here are there own worst enemy. If anyone wants to argue that is not the reason, I've spoken to countless officials that point directly to that as the primary reason, period. BUT cool down with the my taxpayer pays for blah blah blah. I always tell your kind to give me a raise or buy me better equipment. And if you think a Chief of Police or Sheriff cares about your concerns, they are more concerned with stopping the bleed of law enforcement personnel retiring, quitting etc in mass numbers to the point of lower standards just to hire people.

A Clear Case of : "Be Careful What You Wish For"......

 

[Giddyuptd]

Cost is irrelevant anymore in regards to secure methods like it was in past. Only time it is a issue is when locals make it a issue who purchase said radios.

Yes, Everything in and out of public safety is recorded, but who's checking the tape every day?

So, I guess you have to go to every department and check their recorded comms every day.

The Public has a right to know what going on in their communities, we pay for everything including the unnecessary cost to encrypt every radio.

 

[Giddyuptd]

Yep

If anyone wants to argue that is not the reason, I've spoken to countless officials that point directly to that as the primary reason, period. BUT cool down with the my taxpayer pays for blah blah blah. I always tell your kind to give me a raise or buy me better equipment. And if you think a Chief of Police or Sheriff cares about your concerns, they are more concerned with stopping the bleed of law enforcement personnel retiring, quitting etc in mass numbers to the point of lower standards just to hire people.

 

[mondaro]

Yep

Monitor Fire / EMS / Medics and Spen 1 - you will never miss anything big !!

 

[JethrowJohnson]

Monitor Fire / EMS / Medics and Spen 1 - you will never miss anything big !!

True, but Fire/Medical didn't respond when someone was trying to get into people's cars, including mine and my neighbor's, and they also didn't respond when Law Enforcement was looking for that kid. I'm not trying to argue or anything, I'm just saying there's more important things than a major crash in the next city over. And again, I'm not against encryption. Departments' reasons for that are valid and reasonable, I just wish they didn't have to. I guess he could ask his department to reconsider, but there are reasons for their decisions.

 

[wtp]

their game, their rules.
the FCC gives you a frequency, it is up to you to do what you want with it.

 

[X2gsr]

too many negative people in this thread....................................

 

[JethrowJohnson]

too many negative people in this thread....................................

I agree, Grumpy Cat.

 

[wtp]

after sticking a fork in an outlet years ago, i have been pretty positive...+++
this is what it might have looked like and is someone's avatar here...

 

[JethrowJohnson]

after sticking a fork in an outlet years ago, i have been pretty positive...+++
this is what it might have looked like and is someone's avatar here...
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Well that'll give ya a neat hairdo. 🤣

 

[GTR8000]

too many negative people in this thread....................................

Don't confuse being pragmatic or realistic with being negative. If someone has a different opinion or point of view, it can be mistakenly perceived as negativity, which is not necessarily the case.

In any event, this is the NJ forum and this was a thread about a specific agency. Somehow it morphed into yet another thread debating encryption with anecdotes from other states. *yawn*

 

[slingshot202]

not NJ but shows what the press and public can do

Becker bill would restore public access to police radio communications

Police departments throughout California would be required to make their radio communications accessible to the press and the public under new legislation proposed by state Sen. Josh Becker.

www.almanacnews.com

Well we all know the representatives in California do not care about officer safety, so no surprise there.

 

[mondaro]

True, but Fire/Medical didn't respond when someone was trying to get into people's cars, including mine and my neighbor's, and they also didn't respond when Law Enforcement was looking for that kid. I'm not trying to argue or anything, I'm just saying there's more important things than a major crash in the next city over. And again, I'm not against encryption. Departments' reasons for that are valid and reasonable, I just wish they didn't have to. I guess he could ask his department to reconsider, but there are reasons for their decisions.

In that case, go to a council meeting and complain, in my local town where I live and where I work I spoke to the Police Chiefs directly on the dangers of the Big E with supporting documentation.

 

[Archie]

Always wonder what happens if an elected official wants access to an encrypted system.

 

[NParkNJ]

For what its worth knowing the town of Wayne well(having family there for years when I was growing up, playing sports, and recently graduating with one of my degrees there), they are a pretty safe, and quiet town, trouble or crime wise. I’d be willing to bet it was an admin decision and nothing else(we can, we want, etc). Why Paterson isn’t with the ACTUAL crime happening, knifings, shootings, and all that everyday is a different story…I digress

If I were to make any suggestions or to make a plea(I won’t, but hypothetically), I would be all for E on their info, and other tac’s. In my opinion, I never heard anything worth encrypting on their dispatch. Anything personal was always put over the info “channel 2.” They were very methodical in this method.

Too late now, but at least we have Fire/EMS. Some agencies put that in the dark too, so it is what it is…

 

[n3obl]

Always wonder what happens if an elected official wants access to an encrypted system.

They can probably get an official radio.

 

[Giddyuptd]

Always wonder what happens if an elected official wants access to an encrypted system.

Well I've seen it first hand depending how much of a big wig they are they get what they want.

 

[Falcon9h]

Maybe where you are, there's too many people that just want to be nosy and go to car accidents and such and get in the way and take pictures they shouldn't be showing of the scene. We have a few people like that where I am.

Wackers and scanner apps ruined it.