New Firmware Just Released 1.34

[RaleighGuy]

UNICATION just released a new firmware, V1.34, that includes tone detect. Tone detect works after updating FW and when activating it through PPS V0.3.16.29F.

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[belvdr]

I'm not experiencing any issues, so I'll pass on this one.

 

[tkowalik]

One issue already noticed is when tones are received, it displays Announcement instead of the group alias on P25T.

And priority TG list overriding non-priority isn’t fixed.

 

[belvdr]

One issue already noticed is when tones are received, it displays Announcement instead of the group alias on P25T.

And priority TG list overriding non-priority isn’t fixed.

Is that with 1.34 or an older version?

 

[tkowalik]

Is that with 1.34 or an older version?

That’s with 1.34 and 29F. Mailbox fills up with Announcement instead of showing the department.

 

[blackbelter]

No mention of ability to monitor/ Scan multiple systems with this new FW. I believe that is by design.

 

[RaleighGuy]

No mention of ability monitoring multiple systems with this new FW.

I don't ever expect that to change

 

[nosoup4u]

A scan delay would be nice. That can't be that hard to implement.

 

[tkowalik]

I reverted back. Seemed to break more than it fixed from my experience.

 

[blackbelter]

I reverted back. Seemed to break more than it fixed from my experience.

What specific breaking areas are you experiencing ? I don’t use the tones thus the upgrade may not apply to me however reference
to “ addressing some under the hood” may. I must admit that I am a bit concern that according to the FW publication, this FW will fix “Numerous Bugs”. What specific bugs are we talking about?

 

[tkowalik]

Aside from the priority and Announcement issues, I saw some tones not even come through but voice comes through and sometimes tones come through but voice doesn’t. Also showing full signal but broken voice and sometimes missed comms altogether.

This was on Harris systems. Bexar had outages today but I was testing on LCRA.

 

[tkowalik]

All in all, seems like on trunking we’ve been going backward. Need to bring the ability to opt out of stacked tones which would enable voice record on warble tones (like in my YouTube video), bring back priority override, and maybe add 2 tone decode. The audio is slightly better today than a few years ago but it’s not worth sacrificing those abilities. I wish I could revert FW back to 4 years ago.

That’s just my take.

 

[RaleighGuy]

...and maybe add 2 tone decode. ...

Using V1.34 and PPS 3.16.29F does add tone decode. Look in D-7 Step 1 all the way at the bottom, check Digital Tone Detect.

 

[tkowalik]

Using V1.34 and PPS 3.16.29F does add tone decode. Look in D-7 Step 1 all the way at the bottom, check Digital Tone Detect.

You’re correct. However, the features lost to gain that ability are not worth having that option. I don’t want two tone detect to have “Announcement” fill up a mailbox.

Give me FW from 4 years ago along with digital tone detect, and we have the perfect FW.

 

[tkowalik]

This was, at one time, a viable option to expensive radios but I just don’t see it as a viable public safety option anymore.

 

[tkowalik]

Make this pager have the ability to do this again and we will talk.

 

[rr60]

Two Tone Detect workaround. For those that desire to know tone pair in use on a TG try this.

Set TG in PPS to record. Select monitor. Install APP Radio ID on iPhone. Playback two tone pair, decode on APP. Been perfect for me setting up TDMA/FDMA paging.

 

[belvdr]

Two Tone Detect workaround. For those that desire to know tone pair in use on a TG try this.

Set TG in PPS to record. Select monitor. Install APP Radio ID on iPhone. Playback two tone pair, decode on APP. Been perfect for me setting up TDMA/FDMA paging.

I think I did a similar technique when I added these P25 tones to the wiki.

 

[NJFireD1]

You’re correct. However, the features lost to gain that ability are not worth having that option. I don’t want two tone detect to have “Announcement” fill up a mailbox.

Give me FW from 4 years ago along with digital tone detect, and we have the perfect FW.

What features have been lost?

 

[tkowalik]

What features have been lost?

A priority TG overriding an active non priority TG.

The ability to record a full transmission after priority tones (or warble tones). I think what’s going on here is the length of A tone and B tone being a minimum of 200ms each. I bet if you could change it to 50ms it would solve that problem.

The ability for TGs to override another TG when a sub group option is enabled but alternatives is not. For example, say you want to monitor TG 1, 2, 3 and TG 4 is an auto dispatcher that you only want to hear when one particular set of tones goes out. TG 1, 2, and 3 will not pass traffic if TG 4 is transmitting any traffic. So it gives the appearance of missing traffic because TG 1 has traffic but the pager is silent because TG 4 started a dispatch, but not the right tones, before TG 1 keyed up. Goes back to the ability to override certain TGs.

These features used to work, but they do not anymore.