WA0CBW
Member
That doesn't make sense. The fixed end is licensed for a specific power level. This would be an FB2 as shown on the FCC license. What is the call sign of the site and I can decipher it for you.
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2012-MOSWIN-Missouri Statewide Interop Network-Sites/Talkgroups
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scannerowner
Member
FB8 shows 100 watts, but why would I not be recieving 80-100% signal with very little interference from any other towers around me. Most of the VHF stuff I recieve comes in loud and clear. I'm exactly 10.5 miles away from the site... I'm contemplating now getting a Center-Loaded Telescoping Whip Antenna from Radio Shack to put on the 396XT to see if I get any better reception. My 996T would be ok for the time being...
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Hearing TG 20211 on Winston, Dearborn, Stanberry, Tarkio, Avalon, while testing. I Heard TG 20013 on Oregon on Tuesday while testing.
scannerowner
Member
What kind of antenna are all you guys using?? I'm using my stock antenna, which has never been too much of a problem, but considering changing to another. Any thoughts what to get?! I feel like getting the center-loaded telescoping whip antenna that Radio Shack offers.
Major Updates to MOSWIN Sites
I have received additional information on site frequencies with control channels.
Missouri Statewide Wireless Interoperable Network (MOSWIN) Trunking System, Statewide*, Missouri - Scanner Frequencies
I have received additional information on site frequencies with control channels.
Missouri Statewide Wireless Interoperable Network (MOSWIN) Trunking System, Statewide*, Missouri - Scanner Frequencies
Dang Terry, looks like a lot of nice new info!
I've been anxiously awaiting the Weldon Spring site to go online.
I've been anxiously awaiting the Weldon Spring site to go online.
talkpair
Member
baretta29 said:
Heard test teams on talk groups 20005 and 20211 all week on Dearborn.
Does anyone know if the grid numbers are just a list of points they test from, or is there a cheat sheet to convert them to latitude and longitude?
KC0CSE
Member
the "T"
So I have down loaded the trp "A" into my pro 106...so there is no "T" showing up...are these talkgroups only coming up when they turn on the digital mode?...when testing??....or are you guys seeing this all the time?....thks...Mike
and the Water Patrol talkgroups for the truman area have not been posted yet?
So I have down loaded the trp "A" into my pro 106...so there is no "T" showing up...are these talkgroups only coming up when they turn on the digital mode?...when testing??....or are you guys seeing this all the time?....thks...Mike
and the Water Patrol talkgroups for the truman area have not been posted yet?
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talkpair
Member
For right now, Dearborn is the only site near Kansas City that my radio is recognizing a control channel......170.9125.
The testers are the only ones I've heard using the system so far....weekdays, from around 8 to 5:30.
Outside those hours, it's dead.
The chatter is pretty redundant, but frequent enough to work out any reception problems you might have.
KC0CSE
Member
ok thank you...it's not my download that's bad...
scannerowner
Member
Haven't pulled the plug on the new antenna yet, just waiting to see if you guys suggest that it's still on low power for the Winston Site. On my 996T the signal is 3 bars and I have to position the 396XT just right to get 1-2 bars. Still crazy why I can't hardly receive it well. Tried the other channels associated with the site and nothing. I did though pickup 156.24 Stanberry's Alternate CC at 2 bars with the 396XT in a good spot. So I'm not sure what's wrong with the Winston Site. I'll still think about getting the antenna if nothing changes, but still iffy if it would work well.
Additional MOSWIN Information on "other licencees" 152/157 mhz freqs
From the attachment on license WQAH684 for CEH:
ULS License - Part 22 VHF/UHF Paging (excluding 931MHz) License - WQAH684 - COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT HOLDINGS, INC.
Current modification:
ULS Application - 0005019389 - MISSOURI, STATE OF - Administration
Attachment here: (under the ADMIN tab)
Description of Application and Request for Waiver 04/11/2012
https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/...tachmentKey=18887091&attachmentInd=applAttach
This is part of the text from the PDF File.
TONS more information on the attachment.
The State’s consultants then sought to identify frequencies outside the Part 90
public safety pool that might be suitable for use in the system. This effort included a
review of channels allocated in the VHF Paging and Radiotelephone Service band
under Part 22 as well as in the VHF Public Coast Service band under Part 80. The
State’s engineering consultants concluded that five Part 22 channel pairs could meet its
channel requirements. Accordingly, the State has filed the four instant applications in
this proceeding to seek FCC consent to acquire or use these channels for the MOSWIN
system.
Specifically, in an application on FCC Form 603 pending under ULS File No.
0004961767, the State requests FCC consent to acquire three Part 22 channel pairs
licensed under call signs WPVF241, WPVF244 and WPVF245 to Warner
Communications Corporation (“Warner”). The licenses for these stations authorize
Warner to operate on the Channel Blocks FM (152.645-152.675 / 158.905-158.935
MHz), FQ (152.765-152.795 / 158.025-158.055 MHz), and FR (152.795-152.825 /
158.055-158.085 MHz) in Basic Economic Area (“BEA”) No. 96 - St. Louis, MissouriIllinois.
In another application on FCC Form 603, pending under ULS File No.
0005019389, the State seeks FCC consent to acquire two additional Part 22 channel
pairs licensed under call signs WPVM814 and WQAH684 to Communications
Equipment Holdings, Inc. (“CEH”). The licenses for these stations authorize CEH to
operate on Channel Blocks FH (152.510-152.530 / 157.770-157.790 MHz) and FI
(152.525-152.555 / 157.785-157.815 MHz), also in BEA No/ 96.
A third application on FCC Form 603, pending under ULS File No. 0004963364,
seeks FCC consent for the State to acquire a partition (designated by the coordinates
listed in Schedule C of the application) of the license issued under call sign WQMT585
to Scott C. MacIntyre. That license authorizes Mr. MacIntyre to operate on Channel
Block FQ (152.765-152.795 / 158.025-158.055 MHz) in adjacent BEA No. 95 -
Jonesboro, AR-MO, which encompasses an area to south of BEA No. 96.
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Last, the State filed an application on FCC Form 601, pending under ULS File
No. 0005160243, seeking permission to operate facilities at Bloomfield, Missouri, on
one of the channel blocks in the geographic area it proposes to acquire from Warner:
Channel Block FI (152.525-152.555 / 157.785-157.815 MHz) in BEA No. 96. As
discussed in greater detail in Section V(E) below, FCC permission is required because
the interference contour of the Bloomfield site extends slightly into adjacent BEA No. 95;
the FCC’s rules require licensees to ensure that the interference contours of their
operations fall within their licensed geographic areas unless they obtain the consent of
the adjacent co-channel licensee. Id. at 22.567(d). In this case, however, the channel
is not currently assigned by the FCC to another licensee.
Although the State’s consultants were able to find two Part 90 protected
FB8/MO8 channel pairs for operation at the Bloomfield site, it was not able to find the
requisite five it needs to ensure adequate coverage at that location. Accordingly, by this
fourth application, the State seeks appropriate authority to operate on Channel Block FI
at Bloomfield, Missouri.
For convenience and reference, the table below summarizes the channel blocks,
licensees, call signs, and application file numbers associated with its acquisition of five
Part 22 channel pairs in BEA No. 96. The table also identifies the FCC applications or
letters of concurrence (“LoCs”) required so that the interference contour of the State’s
proposed operations at Bloomfield, Missouri, on Channel Blocks FI and FQ may overlap
into the adjacent geographic areas BEA No. 073 and BEA No. 95.
15
(missing graphic, look on PDF File page 9)
15
As illustrated by the graphic under Exhibit A, the interference contour of the Bloomfield
site also extends on Channel Blocks FI and FQ into BEA No. 73 and on Channel Block FQ into
BEA No. 95. The State does not need authority with respect to the overlap on these channels in
these BEAs, however. It has obtained concurrences for the overlap from the licensee on
Channel Block FI in BEA No. 73—KTI, Inc.— and from the licensee on Channel Block FQ in
BEA No. 73—Integrated Communications, Inc. See Letter from Stephen T. Devine, Missouri
DPS, to Kent Hunt, KTI, Inc. (executed Oct. 14, 2011; Letter from Stephen T. Devine, Missouri
DPS, to Clay Golday, Integrated Communications, Inc. (executed Nov. 1, 2011)(attached under
Exhibit B). Moreover, grant of the application pending under File No. 0004963364 to partition
Channel Block FQ from Scott M
From the attachment on license WQAH684 for CEH:
ULS License - Part 22 VHF/UHF Paging (excluding 931MHz) License - WQAH684 - COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT HOLDINGS, INC.
Current modification:
ULS Application - 0005019389 - MISSOURI, STATE OF - Administration
Attachment here: (under the ADMIN tab)
Description of Application and Request for Waiver 04/11/2012
https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/...tachmentKey=18887091&attachmentInd=applAttach
This is part of the text from the PDF File.
TONS more information on the attachment.
The State’s consultants then sought to identify frequencies outside the Part 90
public safety pool that might be suitable for use in the system. This effort included a
review of channels allocated in the VHF Paging and Radiotelephone Service band
under Part 22 as well as in the VHF Public Coast Service band under Part 80. The
State’s engineering consultants concluded that five Part 22 channel pairs could meet its
channel requirements. Accordingly, the State has filed the four instant applications in
this proceeding to seek FCC consent to acquire or use these channels for the MOSWIN
system.
Specifically, in an application on FCC Form 603 pending under ULS File No.
0004961767, the State requests FCC consent to acquire three Part 22 channel pairs
licensed under call signs WPVF241, WPVF244 and WPVF245 to Warner
Communications Corporation (“Warner”). The licenses for these stations authorize
Warner to operate on the Channel Blocks FM (152.645-152.675 / 158.905-158.935
MHz), FQ (152.765-152.795 / 158.025-158.055 MHz), and FR (152.795-152.825 /
158.055-158.085 MHz) in Basic Economic Area (“BEA”) No. 96 - St. Louis, MissouriIllinois.
In another application on FCC Form 603, pending under ULS File No.
0005019389, the State seeks FCC consent to acquire two additional Part 22 channel
pairs licensed under call signs WPVM814 and WQAH684 to Communications
Equipment Holdings, Inc. (“CEH”). The licenses for these stations authorize CEH to
operate on Channel Blocks FH (152.510-152.530 / 157.770-157.790 MHz) and FI
(152.525-152.555 / 157.785-157.815 MHz), also in BEA No/ 96.
A third application on FCC Form 603, pending under ULS File No. 0004963364,
seeks FCC consent for the State to acquire a partition (designated by the coordinates
listed in Schedule C of the application) of the license issued under call sign WQMT585
to Scott C. MacIntyre. That license authorizes Mr. MacIntyre to operate on Channel
Block FQ (152.765-152.795 / 158.025-158.055 MHz) in adjacent BEA No. 95 -
Jonesboro, AR-MO, which encompasses an area to south of BEA No. 96.
14
Last, the State filed an application on FCC Form 601, pending under ULS File
No. 0005160243, seeking permission to operate facilities at Bloomfield, Missouri, on
one of the channel blocks in the geographic area it proposes to acquire from Warner:
Channel Block FI (152.525-152.555 / 157.785-157.815 MHz) in BEA No. 96. As
discussed in greater detail in Section V(E) below, FCC permission is required because
the interference contour of the Bloomfield site extends slightly into adjacent BEA No. 95;
the FCC’s rules require licensees to ensure that the interference contours of their
operations fall within their licensed geographic areas unless they obtain the consent of
the adjacent co-channel licensee. Id. at 22.567(d). In this case, however, the channel
is not currently assigned by the FCC to another licensee.
Although the State’s consultants were able to find two Part 90 protected
FB8/MO8 channel pairs for operation at the Bloomfield site, it was not able to find the
requisite five it needs to ensure adequate coverage at that location. Accordingly, by this
fourth application, the State seeks appropriate authority to operate on Channel Block FI
at Bloomfield, Missouri.
For convenience and reference, the table below summarizes the channel blocks,
licensees, call signs, and application file numbers associated with its acquisition of five
Part 22 channel pairs in BEA No. 96. The table also identifies the FCC applications or
letters of concurrence (“LoCs”) required so that the interference contour of the State’s
proposed operations at Bloomfield, Missouri, on Channel Blocks FI and FQ may overlap
into the adjacent geographic areas BEA No. 073 and BEA No. 95.
15
(missing graphic, look on PDF File page 9)
15
As illustrated by the graphic under Exhibit A, the interference contour of the Bloomfield
site also extends on Channel Blocks FI and FQ into BEA No. 73 and on Channel Block FQ into
BEA No. 95. The State does not need authority with respect to the overlap on these channels in
these BEAs, however. It has obtained concurrences for the overlap from the licensee on
Channel Block FI in BEA No. 73—KTI, Inc.— and from the licensee on Channel Block FQ in
BEA No. 73—Integrated Communications, Inc. See Letter from Stephen T. Devine, Missouri
DPS, to Kent Hunt, KTI, Inc. (executed Oct. 14, 2011; Letter from Stephen T. Devine, Missouri
DPS, to Clay Golday, Integrated Communications, Inc. (executed Nov. 1, 2011)(attached under
Exhibit B). Moreover, grant of the application pending under File No. 0004963364 to partition
Channel Block FQ from Scott M
Well gang,
Its look Some of St Francois County will going to the MOSWIN System around Nov 1 of this year. From what I understand. More details later as soon as I hear about them.
Its look Some of St Francois County will going to the MOSWIN System around Nov 1 of this year. From what I understand. More details later as soon as I hear about them.
Trunking Table
Anyone have any info on the trunking table MOSWIN will be using? I'm wanting to program it into a Radio Shack PRO-96 and will need to enter a custom trunk table into it i assume. I had to with the Nebraska VHF statewide trunk system NWIN anyways. Also....Troop H's new tower in St Joe that's done or about done....are they going to throw another 1500 watt low band system on it with the low band antenna up top......? or I wonder will they just set it up for the new system?
73's
Anyone have any info on the trunking table MOSWIN will be using? I'm wanting to program it into a Radio Shack PRO-96 and will need to enter a custom trunk table into it i assume. I had to with the Nebraska VHF statewide trunk system NWIN anyways. Also....Troop H's new tower in St Joe that's done or about done....are they going to throw another 1500 watt low band system on it with the low band antenna up top......? or I wonder will they just set it up for the new system?
73's
talkpair
Member
You may want to check page 3 of this thread for those answers:
Troop H lost it's tower
As for MOSWIN........the Lawson site is now on the air using 169.6625 for control ......for now at least.
I'm 75% confident DeWitt has been on the air for the past 2 or 3 weeks, although I'm too far to decode anything.
Sounds like the control channel might be 155.6175.
scannerowner
Member
I see in the database, Troop E Dispatch 2 is in use, have they been getting Troopers moved over from the low band to MOSWIN?
KC0CSE
Member
Troop A CC
ok so I want only to put in Troop A in my 106...using win500.....do I have to put in manualy the control channels needed for troop A? after downloading the whole system?...it only down loads 32 cc...do I go to that section and delete the other control channels listed? and add only troop A's? I hope I made myself clear...thanks....
ok so I want only to put in Troop A in my 106...using win500.....do I have to put in manualy the control channels needed for troop A? after downloading the whole system?...it only down loads 32 cc...do I go to that section and delete the other control channels listed? and add only troop A's? I hope I made myself clear...thanks....
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talkpair
Member
Re: Troop A CC
If you only scan from home, I'd suggest only programming in the Massman (Independence) site control channel.
It's close to you, most likely to always have a radio affiliated with it, and it's less work.
At the moment, it's not transmitting anything my radio interprets as a control channel.
You might want to temporarily program in the Lawson site in.....Just started hearing the testers on it yesterday afternoon....TG 20005
Control channel for it is 169.6625.....(at least for now).
KC0CSE said:
If you only scan from home, I'd suggest only programming in the Massman (Independence) site control channel.
It's close to you, most likely to always have a radio affiliated with it, and it's less work.
At the moment, it's not transmitting anything my radio interprets as a control channel.
You might want to temporarily program in the Lawson site in.....Just started hearing the testers on it yesterday afternoon....TG 20005
Control channel for it is 169.6625.....(at least for now).
KC0CSE
Member
thank you for your help....just one cc for MOHP? and one for the other troop?...thank you
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