scannerowner
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The different sites have different CCs. There are many sites in the areas of the Troops. Talkpair is just suggesting the nearest site for you to listen to that would be beneficial to you.
2012-MOSWIN-Missouri Statewide Interop Network-Sites/Talkgroups
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zzdiesel
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Poplar Bluff has separate TG for both dispatches; North & South. We should only need to listen to the South here, but our local troopers are talking on both.
scannerowner
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So are they using it full time, or just part of the time, while they're testing?
zzdiesel
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I think they're using both till they get all of the car radios updated. I hear a couple of troopers who still use both the old and the new.
scannerowner
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Ah ok, good deal... Sounds more promising that it will go live when it's supposed to!
zzdiesel
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I'm anticipating the agencies switching over to it full time. I guess Sikeston is the only one so far.
Livingston County
Testing on the Avalon (Livingston Co) tower 028 ongoing; ID 20205 on 170.5125. Strong signal in Chillicothe on the GRE PSR500 rubber ducky, roughly 12 miles away.
The Livingston County agencies have received a few MOSWIN radios and determing how to deploy them (beside PSAPs).
Joe
Testing on the Avalon (Livingston Co) tower 028 ongoing; ID 20205 on 170.5125. Strong signal in Chillicothe on the GRE PSR500 rubber ducky, roughly 12 miles away.
The Livingston County agencies have received a few MOSWIN radios and determing how to deploy them (beside PSAPs).
Joe
scannerowner
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Maybe you can help me then, what do you think it wrong with the Winston Site. I'm less than 10 miles from the site and not recieving a strong enough signal even when I'm away from the interference issues I have. I have talked to a source that says it's not "built out" yet, and I'm seeing that they just recieved a license on other frequencies yesterday. My source also says the techs will be working on it to get it online by the end of the month.
KC0CSE
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troop A
troop A was testing today....picked them up on the 197 in house.... 171.51250 CC& 171.26250 CC were coming through loud and clear...
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PRO 197
troop A was testing today....picked them up on the 197 in house.... 171.51250 CC& 171.26250 CC were coming through loud and clear...
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scannerowner
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Sounds like you got the Lawson and Massman Sites. I've heard Lawson on 169.6625, but not 171.2625. I'll give 'er a try when I get home.
BaLa
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nevermind
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zzdiesel
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I looked in the DB and they use 154.905 on several sites.
BaLa
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First question - on what frequency are you hearing any converstation? You can look up on RR to determine which tower you are hearing. My guess is that the tech is right - they just aren't done yet.
My other guess is that they are busting their behinds to get the whole system on-line & fully operational by the end of the year, when narrow-banding is required. Without MOSWIN, I don't know how MSHP would comply.
Therefore, keep monitoring. I think you'll be hearing progressively more activity in the next couple of months.
I've been told all MSHP Chargers came with the MOWSIN radios, and that low-band will be removed after MOSWIN is functional. One would assume for interoperability purposes that "functional" means state-wide (or at the end of the year - whichever comes first). Other patrol cars would probably have old out/new in at the same appointment.
Joe
KC0CSE
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Good post!!! I'm with you all the way.....Friday of this week back to back testing going on Troop "A" & "F"....there busting butt.....the sound Q is great!!!.....
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scannerowner
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I'm monitoring the Winston Site, not much luck on solid strength of signal when only 10.5 miles away... Not sure why???
New Hope on air
Picking up a new site for my area this evening.
Pro96com shows it as 1CE with a tower ID of 329 with a control channel of 171.38750 and an alternate of 169.66250.
The database here shows this as New Hope in Lincoln County which is north of my location here in St. Louis. The database also has the CC and the Alternates reversed from what I'm seeing.
Signal is good and even my 996XT gets this site. Usually I need the sensitivity of a PSR600 for these distant Moswin sites.
No voice traffic and no voice channels logged at all.
Picking up a new site for my area this evening.
Pro96com shows it as 1CE with a tower ID of 329 with a control channel of 171.38750 and an alternate of 169.66250.
The database here shows this as New Hope in Lincoln County which is north of my location here in St. Louis. The database also has the CC and the Alternates reversed from what I'm seeing.
Signal is good and even my 996XT gets this site. Usually I need the sensitivity of a PSR600 for these distant Moswin sites.
No voice traffic and no voice channels logged at all.
Give it some time, it will improve. Other sites have started off like this where the signal was weak in places it shouldn't be. The Branson site came online at the beginning of April, but the signal was weak until around the middle of May.
Sites often start off with the CC and Alt CC (or a Voice Channel) reversed initially but will flip around for the permanent configuration.
scannerowner
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Ok thank you for the relief... I have a source tell me the techs don't have it built out yet, so that I'm guessing is why my reception is poor.
I've seen this go the other way as well. Sites start out with a decent signal and then when they are done aligning the antennas, the signal is unreadable. Granted, this is for some of the sites that are distant and I would have never expexted to hear them in the first place. Hearing them and being able to decode the control channels on several was just a bonus but several of the sites I could do that with are now barely audible. Could be conditions or could be a re-alignment of the sites antennas.
I'm fully aware of that. I just point it out for others that may try the site and only enter the primary CC (as taken from the database) and of course find no signal.
I enter in the entire MOSWIN system with all frequencies and sites. It's easy to spot a new site on a 996xt as it will show the frequency of the CC it is hearing in the display. Many frequencies are reused across the state so I use something like Pro96com to decode the CC data and see what tower it is. It is not uncommon for me to hear CC's from several counties away from here so it takes a little work seeing what you are really decoding and then comparing that to what is listed in the database here.
On the other hand, I use an Icom R9000 and manually tune the band for P25 CC data sounds. When I find one, I plug that into a PSR-600 unless it falls in the 152 to 153 MHz range. I can often copy the weak sites CC data on the GRE but not hear it at all on the 996XT.
For the sites with CC's in the 152 range, I must remove a PAR paging filter and only use the Unidens as the paging signals destroy the GRE's VHF high reception. I need a pretty decent signal for the 996XT though.
The GRE's have a much more sensitive front end but I must attenuate some (many) of the local P25 signals that hit that radio otherwise it will overload and destroy P25 data.
I hate using the built in -20dB attenuator so I found some step attenuators that I installed inline. I can set them between -1 and -15dB. They work fantastic and much better than the steep -20dB of the GRE's built in attenuator. I find a level of -8dB to -10dB works best. The built in attenuator is often too much and I really wish GRE would have made it dual level like -10 and -20 and off. Can't have everything.
My RF environment does not help either. I'm between several hospitals plus 20 something cell towers within a mile or two and the counties EOC which transmits at least one of the precincts signals. All that mess (especially the paging on the hospitals) can really wipe out a radio with a poor front end.
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