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I wouldn't equate QSY to CB. But then what channel can you go to on CB to find decent coversations or no one holler like they have their foot caught in the meat grinder?
 

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Bad, but at least not as bad as Ch. 6 AM. Ultimately though, this problem is well-explored: Tragedy of the commons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
as are the solutions: Tragedy of the commons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Damn but I wish I had something more constructive to add. Unfortunately there just aren't any good answers, and all we have is that some are less bad than others. You want complete freedom and anarchy? CB is your solution. Want order and don't mind permits? Get a Tech license and do 10 meter ham. Pick your poison, at least you have a choice. Too bad there isn't a happy middle path here.
 
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I wouldn't equate QSY to CB. .....
I would, since he's on sideband. Q signals have always been used on CB SSB. When I was on the band, 10 codes and handles on sideband was verboten and as far as I know still is.

Sad to hear the madness on CB has started to go sideband. There was a time when the true decent, courteous operators were on SSB.

"KES-3940 Ocean Front 136 QSY upper 16"
 

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... Been thinking about the ham thing...

That's a good option for you. Give it a try. It's not without it's problems but you'll have more "real estate" to retreat to, to stay away from the known "troubled" areas of the amateur available spectrum.

Personally, I don't mind the "anarchy" on 11 meters. It is what it is. I've found better things to do on 11 meters than to attempt to "slug it out" with the powerhouse stations on channel 38 lsb or channel 6 am.

Go for the ham ticket. There's a lot of good folk on the forum that will help you along your way.
 

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I don' get on there to slug it out with them,i really try to avoid that .. But i must admit sometimes i get sucked in ..

In the mornings here in Iowa on a good day point the beam North East and get some really good contacts all over Europe ..That's what i enjoy..

Have been listening to some 10 meters, don't know if i could get in to . Seems you must say your call and the other persons call every time you start talking again .I have to write down the last 3 numbers of an 11 meter call now so i can have it when i end ..Short term, i guess ..

Thanks guys... Best Regards .. Tim
 

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you wrote:

"In the mornings here in Iowa on a good day point the beam North East and get some really good contacts all over Europe ..That's what i enjoy"..

Yes, that's part of what I'm talking about. There's more to do on 11m than "slugging it out" with the big boys in a silly "outshout 'em" match.

I don't think the call letters on the ham bands have to be repeated as often as you think. Perhaps someone with a current ham license can clarify the requirements for us.

Hey, I know about the "short term" thing. I'm getting up in years. Just have a pencil and paper ready to take notes, that's what I do. Don't let the "call letters" thing keep you from making a positive move.

You can do it.
 

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Unless it's changed recently, Id on the beginng and end of a contact and at 10 minute intervals is the FCC rule. No big deal for anyone. Just sounds overly repetive if you have folks making fast contacts for contests and some people just have a habit of doing a monolog and using call signs on the beginning and end of each return. Sort of becomes an automatic thing and you'll quickly realize you're doing the same. Don't sweat it.
 

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Oh by GAWD. Tried to find something of intelligence on the crappy bad today and ALL frequencies sounded like I was in the Zoo with a lot of monkies with snail brains. What a crap shoot out. UGLY.
 

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Good luck Eastsider. Welcome to Ham Radio. I hope you can upgrade to General soon and find even more radio spectrum to play with.
 

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My suggestion
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To quote "it all depends on where you live". Well not really on Saturday and Sunday. Upper, Lower and middle, AM all crap. Bleed overs. Mind you, this was during the day. I did not bother in the evenings.
 
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