5-City Radio System Lorain County

[mtindor]

Figure it out for yourself. Oh, wait, I bet you don't know how...
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Not off the top of my head, given I don't listen to the system, don't live anywhere near it, and don't pay much attention to this thread. I'm a dumbarse yep.

And "much further north" is an exaggeration. Go 5 air miles north of the licensed S Amherst location and you are in the lake.

 

[mtindor]

You talking about the one that's in a wooded area that you could see from Quarry rd kind of?


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That's an interesting antenna in that picture. That isn't a business or public safety yagi. That's a pretty stout LPDA.

 

[RandyKuff]

That's an interesting antenna in that picture. That isn't a business or public safety yagi. That's a pretty stout LPDA.

What is strange is the location info from the FCC site shows it to be there...

 

[wd8chl]

What is strange is the location info from the FCC site shows it to be there...

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That's what the license says. That's not where it is. That site is South Amherst, for one, thing, not Amherst. But where the site is is a long way north of there. Anybody that has a clue about looking for transmitters can find it. Geez.

 

[wd8chl]

That's an interesting antenna in that picture. That isn't a business or public safety yagi. That's a pretty stout LPDA.

The antenna at that site is a left over from the old WMI Lorain stuff. HF marine. It's a log periodic that worked down to about 2 MHz.

 

[jdolina]

4505 lots of radio testing today. rid: 4716602

 

[firemedic19]

Does anyone know if the goal is for all Lorain County agencies to transition to this system? I searched both threads related to this but did not get an exact answer. If so, do we have any idea of when? Thanks in advance.

 

[RandyKuff]

Does anyone know if the goal is for all Lorain County agencies to transition to this system? I searched both threads related to this but did not get an exact answer. If so, do we have any idea of when? Thanks in advance.

I havn't seen anything official about Lorain PD and Fire going to the 5 City but they are definitely Patched to it...
LPD TGID 4235
LFD TGID 4240

 

[wd8chl]

Does anyone know if the goal is for all Lorain County agencies to transition to this system? I searched both threads related to this but did not get an exact answer. If so, do we have any idea of when? Thanks in advance.

The county has decided on MARCS, but there's nothing says anyone has to go there. At least a few dept's are refusing to leave VHF, mostly because the radios are vastly too expensive. Many can't handle $1000-1500 P25 VHF radios, let alone 800MHz radios. And what Harris and Moto are pushing can range from $6000 up to $15,000.

 

[wd8chl]

So this --- View attachment 164789 --- is patched to the 5 City with TGID 4700

Got it... Thanks...

Haven't seen this show up in the database yet. 4700 is definitely a patch from 154.37 that encompasses Sheffield Twp, Elyria Twp, Wakeman, Florence Twp, S. Amherst, and maybe others.
From listening, I don't know which, but at least one dept. out of that group is using it from the trunked system side, maybe more. My first guess would be Elyria Twp. has moved there.

 

[wd8chl]

Add'l: I can confirm Sheffield Twp. has moved to this system. One ID I caught was 4717937 for squad 137.
Also a 4716xxx came up quickly, I think that may have been and Elyria Twp unit.

 

[Nasby]

Is the Database correct that most TGs are still phase 1 and not TDMA?

 

[RandyKuff]

Is the Database correct that most TGs are still phase 1 and not TDMA?

Good point...
On my SDS100 everything I see is showing P25P2 along with a Slot #...

 

[RandyKuff]

Is the Database correct that most TGs are still phase 1 and not TDMA?

Just submited a Database update to change the "D" to "T"...

 

[RandyKuff]

Just submitted the info for TGID 4235, TGID 4240 and TGID 4700 to be added as Patches to the 5-City System...

Lorain Police Dept - Patched with TGID 4235
Lorain Fire Dept - Patched with TGID 4240
Lorain Co Fire TAC-14 NW Dispatch - Patched with TGID 4700

 

[wd8chl]

Is the Database correct that most TGs are still phase 1 and not TDMA?

Everything on that system should be Phase II TDMA.

 

[RandyKuff]

Here is a new one... TGID 4025
Have no idea who/or what it was... All I heard was - Repeater is on generator power... Then several seconds later I heard Repeater is on normal power...

 

[wd8chl]

Here is a new one... TGID 4025
Have no idea who/or what it was... All I heard was - Repeater is on generator power... Then several seconds later I heard Repeater is on normal power...

Oh, that was there? We're also listening to Vermilion PD, and I thought it was from there, since I know it's set up for that.
It had to be something patched in, since there's vastly better ways to do a power fail alert for a system like that.

 

[jdolina]

Here is a new one... TGID 4025
Have no idea who/or what it was... All I heard was - Repeater is on generator power... Then several seconds later I heard Repeater is on normal power...

I typically hear that on the Amherst fire dispatch analog frequency every few months or so.

 

[mtindor]

FCC licensing has been updated with the proper location for the Amherst site -- and it looks like they have also added a site at Berlin Heights way out west.

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