6/25/2020 - Broadcastify Calls Updates

[JDrisc3480]

Question. I am not a feed provider, yet. I plan to get there eventually. I currently work overseas and listen to home feeds on Broadcastify. So my question is does this change how I listen to those feeds?

Thank you

 

[blantonl]

It seems to work OK with Microsoft Edge, but does not work on my Chrome (2 computers). Ipad works on Safari but not with Chrome. Seems to be all nodes/systems.

I don't know what to say here.. I'm unable to recreate your problems. The calls system components seem to be working fine and I've had no other complaints or reports of problems.

 

[webstar22]

I don't know what to say here.. I'm unable to recreate your problems. The calls system components seem to be working fine and I've had no other complaints or reports of problems.

Could be ad blocking apps in chrome like Ublock stopping it.

 

[krokus]

Question. I am not a feed provider, yet. I plan to get there eventually. I currently work overseas and listen to home feeds on Broadcastify. So my question is does this change how I listen to those feeds?

Thank you

Yes. You can listen to almost every call going through that site. You can pull past radio traffic, too. (Upto the storage limits, whatever they are.)

 

[rjdj2000]

Is there a way for the calls system to take what is put in for the Alias in SDRTrunk to display in all the talkgroups seen? I have one that just shows the TG # but no name, no it is not in the database as it is a recent one. Also what about new tg's that pop up? I had one that I had no alias for and I see it is not in the list (could be due to being enc.) I will send the author about alias's that are not in the list if they get sent or not just to verify.

 

[blantonl]

Is there a way for the calls system to take what is put in for the Alias in SDRTrunk to display in all the talkgroups seen? I have one that just shows the TG # but no name, no it is not in the database as it is a recent one. Also what about new tg's that pop up? I had one that I had no alias for and I see it is not in the list (could be due to being enc.) I will send the author about alias's that are not in the list if they get sent or not just to verify.

There is not - we're are going to handle all group and ID aliases on this end. We'll be rolling our ID alias management for trunked system radio IDs shortly. We've put the the management and policy components in place just recently, next up is the implementation

 

[GTR8000]

Is there a way for the calls system to take what is put in for the Alias in SDRTrunk to display in all the talkgroups seen? I have one that just shows the TG # but no name, no it is not in the database as it is a recent one.

If it's not in the RR database, you'll need to make a submission so that it can be added. Only then it will display the alias in Calls.

 

[rjdj2000]

There is not - we're are going to handle all group and ID aliases on this end. We'll be rolling our ID alias management for trunked system radio IDs shortly. We've put the the management and policy components in place just recently, next up is the implementation

Sounds good. I will have to try to get confirmation on some of them that are not in the database and get them in. I did put in alias's in SDRTrunk so hopefully when the missing TG come on, it will upload. I also sent email to Denny on how it all works on that end....

 

[HM1529]

Just curious, but why would bandwidth be wasted on recording encrypted talkgroups? Am I missing something?

Newark Campus Police - Operations 2/Rutgers University Group Calls Live

4357 Group Calls Live

www.broadcastify.com

 

[GTR8000]

Just curious, but why would bandwidth be wasted on recording encrypted talkgroups? Am I missing something?

Newark Campus Police - Operations 2/Rutgers University Group Calls Live

4357 Group Calls Live

www.broadcastify.com

Glitches, it happens once in a while. Most likely it's not even really the talkgroup it appears to be, just some bad decoding/recording. Notice how few recordings there are on that page, and how sporadically they appear. I've seen this happen from time to time.

 

[mtindor]

Just curious, but why would bandwidth be wasted on recording encrypted talkgroups? Am I missing something?

Newark Campus Police - Operations 2/Rutgers University Group Calls Live

4357 Group Calls Live

www.broadcastify.com

IMO, it could be beneficial from the standpoint of logging radio IDs associated with unknown encrypted talkgroups, and then seeing what other talkgroups those RIDs might affiliate with down the road. That could help determine agency usage of a talkgroup. That would mostly be true if a radio ID that regularly uses an ENC talkgroup might end up occasionally talking in the clear on some other talkgroup. You could identify the user (or at least agency), and that could go a long way towards determining what is happening on the ENC talkgroup and what agency(s) are involved on that ENC talkgroup. I know, seems like a stretch. Of course, if that was being done for that purpose, there would be no reason to keep the actual encrypted audio.

 

[rjdj2000]

IMO, it could be beneficial from the standpoint of logging radio IDs associated with unknown encrypted talkgroups, and then seeing what other talkgroups those RIDs might affiliate with down the road. That could help determine agency usage of a talkgroup. That would mostly be true if a radio ID that regularly uses an ENC talkgroup might end up occasionally talking in the clear on some other talkgroup. You could identify the user (or at least agency), and that could go a long way towards determining what is happening on the ENC talkgroup and what agency(s) are involved on that ENC talkgroup. I know, seems like a stretch. Of course, if that was being done for that purpose, there would be no reason to keep the actual encrypted audio.

What I was thinking and had emailed the dev of SDRTrunk on is if there was an ENC talkgroup that came on, that it created a second of blank audio or use a recorded message for example to pass along that would help with what you are talking about. Right now, there is no audio recorded for it and thus no upload. With a blank or pre-recorded burb it could pass that along and be able to be populated. I just think regardless if there is a TG or not in the RR database, it should be able to pass all TG's along so that it will help users catch any activity and try to identify what it is, as a paid/feed user can only see all TG's now anyways so we could be able to go back through the list of TG on the calls screen and be able to play back unidentified TG's to try to figure them out. Or at least see where what radio ID was on before it went to an ENC channel to help track it down like you said.

 

[mtindor]

What I was thinking and had emailed the dev of SDRTrunk on is if there was an ENC talkgroup that came on, that it created a second of blank audio or use a recorded message for example to pass along that would help with what you are talking about. Right now, there is no audio recorded for it and thus no upload. With a blank or pre-recorded burb it could pass that along and be able to be populated. I just think regardless if there is a TG or not in the RR database, it should be able to pass all TG's along so that it will help users catch any activity and try to identify what it is, as a paid/feed user can only see all TG's now anyways so we could be able to go back through the list of TG on the calls screen and be able to play back unidentified TG's to try to figure them out. Or at least see where what radio ID was on before it went to an ENC channel to help track it down like you said.

That's a good feature request. Trunk Recorder I believe will send ENC talkgroups if you want it to. It would be nice if SDRTrunk did exactly what you are suggesting (blank audio blurb). I'm not criticizing SDRTrunk though. Denny has done an excellent job on the SDRTrunk software!

Mike

 

[rjdj2000]

That's a good feature request. Trunk Recorder I believe will send ENC talkgroups if you want it to. It would be nice if SDRTrunk did exactly what you are suggesting (blank audio blurb). I'm not criticizing SDRTrunk though. Denny has done an excellent job on the SDRTrunk software!

Mike

Yes he has as I have been using it since he added streaming and the only time my feed is down is if there is internet/network or computer issues, now that calls has been added I just added the stream for that and tagged all alias's for that stream and made sure that there was none that was allowed on the regular stream.

I just think that if we can upload all tg's no matter what, we also should be able to add the ENC as there is a bunch here that I have yet to figure out and it is why I haven't sent them in. If on this platform we were able to send everything then we logistically can try to figure out the TG. So say if RID 601225 keys up and says '1431 got to SWAT 2' then all of a sudden that same ID shows up on ENC TG 6128 then we could say 6128 is SWAT 2, etc. Most of the time I have caught someone doing just that and submitted most of them for Cortland County already. There is a few and most recently TG 6509 that I have not sent in. 6509 became active as a intercom of sorts between dispatchers at the county 911 center due to the COVID-19 situation and there has been some interesting conversations that I have heard on there LOL. I just haven't sent it in as IDK how long it will be used like this.

 

[HiVolt]

I'd like to know if there is some kind of plan for mobile devices, in my case iPhone & iPad, to be able to listen to the Calls platform with the screens off. Since it is a browser based interface at the moment, and each call is a small sound file, iPhone & iPads simply stop processing what the webpage is feeding, when the screens are off.

It would be nice if the Calls platform could be integrated into the Broadcastify app, or a separate Calls app. Currently it makes it very hard to listen to stuff on the go and not ruin battery life.

I'm not sure if this is an issue on Android devices.

 

[ScanYak]

I listen to "Calls" on my Android browser along with the app Alive in order to keep the phone from going to sleep. Kinda wonky but works for now. I will keep hoping for a Calls app.

 

[AE8I]

Are there any plans to allow for an entire site's archive to be searched by UNIT/SRC designation?

 

[blantonl]

Are there any plans to allow for an entire site's archive to be searched by UNIT/SRC designation?

Yes, there are a ton of plans for that.

You can already click on a src ID and get stats and previous calls I believe... we have the data... we can do just about anything. It's just a matter of time and effort on our end to develop it

 

[AE8I]

Very good - thank you!

I am aware that additional SRC and UNIT information is available via hyperlink (directly or indirectly) on both the live calls page and the last 24 hours page. However, if I'm interested in a SRC or UNIT that appears infrequently on my system, and I don't catch it when it appears on either of those two pages, it is not immediately apparent to me how I access information about it, since there is then no hyperlink available to me.

In a related matter, it would be nice to be able to query these records for an extended period of time, rather than for whatever limited period is dictated by the onerous storage requirements for such large amounts of audio. Perhaps these records could be divorced from their associated audio at some point, so that just the records, for much greater periods of time, could be stored and queried for any field, including SRC and UNIT.

My interest in querying the records is brought about because my site is a hodgepodge of encrypted communications and those in the clear. Being able to conveniently perform targeted searches on fields such as UNIT and SRC will allow me to better understand just what is happening on my system.

Thanks very much for all the work you and others have done on Calls. It's great fun to use now, and it obviously has lots of potential yet to be realized and explored. I'm very much looking forward to the promised updates.

 

[Charlie1068]

Is there plans to make an app or update to the current app to use the calls feature? The mobile site is great don't get me wrong, but I was just curious if the idea was brought up or talked about?