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I have enjoyed listening to the local 2 meter ham band in my area on my scanner. I would like to start listening to some 6 meter nets. What are some 6 meter net frequencies? Also how far could I hear the nets from where they are being transmitted. Thanks.
 

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All effective communications is line of sight.
Anything other then line of sight involves some work.
Do a internet search and see if you can find any active repeaters in your area of the country and enter them into your receiver.
You might have to invest in a different antenna - depending on what you are using right now.
2 meters tends to be the most common of all the repeater bands - hence it is the easiest to receive - because in some locations there is a 2 meter repeater in every town.
6 Meters tends to be sporadic and with the decline of amateur radio today - most repeaters has been shut down due to a lack of activity.
 

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I've been a part of several 6 meter nets. You'll find them on various frequencies in the SSB and FM parts of the band. Generally, the SSB nets are a bunch of local guys who want to talk to each other at least once a week. I believe our Missouri net was on (or close to) 50.200. There was also another net called the "Magic Band Net" on a repeater in Godfrey, IL. I forgot what that frequency was, but that net's been inactive for years.

Ya know, I haven't necessarily seen a "decline" in amateur radio, but I have seen hams distracted from talking on the air. There are still many licensees, but it seems the social aspect has shifted to forums (like here) and to local get-togethers. It's just different than what it was. Repeaters were one of the earlier forms of social networks and those have evolved.
 

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... with the decline of amateur radio today - most repeaters has been shut down due to a lack of activity.
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I just saw an article about how Amateur Radio is growing....

However 6-meters is under-utilized in part because of lack of inexpensive (as compared to 2-meter) equipment. Unfortunately 2-meters is following the same trend with the availability of 440 equipment.
 

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I just saw an article about how Amateur Radio is growing....

There might be some attraction to the digital portions of amateur radio - but when you consider that 65% of all the license holders only has a Technician Class License, speaks volumes about its stability.
Back in the day, a person started out with a Novice Class License and had to keep a log and had to prove that they operated - in order to justify moving up the ladder. If they didn't operate - then their license was not renewed. They had to learn CW as part of their initiation - CW is the original form of digital communications. All dee's and dah's - 1's and 0's...
When they dropped the code and allowed everyone in that could pass a 35 question, multiple guess test, and they gave you access to all of the questions and answers possible on the test - a dummified version of what had been, many people applied for the license and tried to be amateur radio operators.

However 6-meters is under-utilized in part because of lack of inexpensive (as compared to 2-meter) equipment. Unfortunately 2-meters is following the same trend with the availability of 440 equipment.
In my opinion, what is happening is that as we lower the standards to let more amateur radio people into the hobby, we loose the more experienced people.
The lack of Elmers to the unwillingness to accept the help of a Elmer, the lack of qualified radio people to teach these people the admittance of the CB'rs and their mentality - is killing the hobby.
Yes you can find a couple of people in each town that will check into the weekly net on the local repeater for the local amateur radio club - if it is still around. But when all the people does is check in with their call sign and say NO TRAFFIC - because they aren't hams, they aren't using the ham radio equipment they own and they are not willing to sell anything to others - unless it is broke, and they are not willing to buy anything, amateur radio has become pretty much stagnant in my part of the world - PENNSYLVANIA.

Older radio equipment - usually found at ham radio swaps, tends not to have 6 meters on board.
The older HF equipment only went from 10 meters to 160 if you were lucky.
Because Amateur radio operators - back in the day, made a lot of their own equipment, if they wanted to use 6 meters - they would either buy a transverter which would receive the 6 meters and then convert it to something their transceivers could receive. Or they would find some old used public service equipment and convert it for use on the magic band.

That was then, this is now.

The trend I see taking place, is a reluctance to buy anything, due to the cost.
If you give the new hams old equipment, they do not utilize it and it usually just sits there doing nothing.
A new ham has a budget - money they are willing to spend.
Most are willing to purchase a inexpensive walkie talkie - because it might get them into the local repeater
They might also have someone build them a J Pole antenna - because it was free or cheap and they don't want to spend any money.

This isn't amateur radio, or the mentality of real radio operators.

As they find out that without professional equipment and larger antenna's - due to the fact that there is no activity in the local community except the weekly net or a couple of old people who might talk early in the morning or late at night - after work - there is nothing for them to listen to - to learn how to properly talk on the amateur radio and there is no one for them to talk to.

If you look at the QRZ page for licenses about to expire, You will see a trend.
Complete strings of people who held a call sign 10 or 20 years ago that are dropping out of amateur radio.
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KB3HNM 2012-02-04 ROBERT L KENNEDY, SCOTTDALE, PA
KB3HNQ 2012-02-04 Harold K Liller, Waldorf, MD
KB3HNR 2012-02-04 Dana M Boley, La Plata, MD
KB3HNS 2012-02-04 Andrew J Buettner, Connellsville, PA
KB3HNW 2012-02-05 Kevin W Cannady, Philadephia, PA
KB3HOJ 2012-02-12 Lisa N Charlson, Riva, MD
KB3HOK 2012-02-12 John L Pacovich, III, Wind Gap, PA
KB3HOU 2012-02-12 William E Merkle, Philadelphia, PA
KB3HOV 2012-02-12 Thomas E Paparella, Harleysville, PA
KB3HPA 2012-02-15 Nicholas V Vozza, Pittsburgh, PA
KB3HPD 2012-02-15 Michael T Egler, Pittsburgh, PA
KB3HPE 2012-02-15 Andrew L Goodyear, Pittsburgh, PA
KB3HPF 2012-02-15 Chris D May, Pittsburgh, PA
KB3HPH 2012-02-19 Anthony Q Masiello, Silver Spring, MD
KB3HPI 2012-02-19 Michel L Clark, Baltimore, MD
KB3HPL 2012-02-19 Paul E Maietti, Easton, PA
KB3HPP 2012-02-19 Christopher S Cavna, Upper Darby, PA
KB3HPQ 2012-02-19 Chin Fung So, Philadelphia, PA
KB3HPT 2012-02-20 William E Davis, York, PA
KB3HPX 2012-02-25 BERND MICHTNER, COLLEGEVILLE, PA
KB3HQC 2012-02-27 Jonathan R Brandon, Reading, PA
KB3HQD 2012-02-27 Kevin M Slifer, Boyertown, PA
KB3HQE 2012-02-27 Bradley B Parola, Grove City, PA
KB3HQF 2012-02-27 Brian L Heilman, Annville, PA
KB3HQG 2012-02-27 Brent A Beauseigneur, Bellefonte, PA
KB3HQI 2012-02-27 Matthew C Richter, Frederick, MD
KB3HQJ 2012-02-27 Matthew D McGuire, Mars, PA
KB3HQK 2012-02-27 Joseph W Argabright, III, Morrisville, PA
KB3HQL 2012-02-27 Ross E Bellinger, Wellsboro, PA
KB3HQO 2012-02-27 Zikri Bayraktar, State College, PA
KB3HQP 2012-02-27 Joel T Shibata, University Park, PA
KB3HQQ 2012-02-27 Srimath S Subasinghe, University Park, PA
KD3YQ 2012-02-06 ROBERT R GOLD, Mars, PA
N3BWG 2012-02-21 RICHARD L WAGNER, ERIE, PA
N3DUP 2012-02-04 WILLARD J DEMO, JR, PANAMA CITY BEACH, FL
N3EYQ 2012-02-11 PAUL J HINTZ, Kingston, NY
N3HMJ 2012-02-11 LOVELL STALLARD, Jr., Soddy Daisy, TN
N3HOL 2012-02-11 BETTY J STALLARD, Soddy Daisy, TN


N3LPH 2012-02-04 MATTHEW A MOORE, DOYLESTOWN, PA
N3LPM 2012-02-04 EYAN W HAGERTY, BRISTOL, PA
N3LPN 2012-02-04 DONALD L EMERICK, JR, CARLISLE, PA
N3LPT 2012-02-04 JAMES W BOYLE, Columbia, MD
N3LQK 2012-02-11 TIMOTHY J DURKIN, Philadelphia, PA
N3LQZ 2012-02-11 TRACEY A HOWELL, ROSETO, PA
N3LRE 2012-02-18 ROBERT J HARRINGTON, DUQUESNE, PA
N3LRG 2012-02-18 CHRISTINE H RIAL, Oakdale, PA
N3LRH 2012-02-18 LARRY S ROGERS, II, Ocala, FL
N3LRJ 2012-02-18 James T Scharf, Hanover, PA
N3LRM 2012-02-18 JEFFREY N BLUNT, BALTIMORE, MD
N3LRO 2012-02-18 GEORGE O WITHERS, GREENBELT, MD
N3LRQ 2012-02-18 AMY M ALLEN CHABOT, BOWIE, MD
N3LRS 2012-02-26 DAVID R GILBERT, BETHESDA, MD
N3LRT 2012-02-18 NICHOLAS A WILKIN, NARBERTH, PA
N3LRY 2012-02-18 Deborah B Shankman, Silver Spring, MD
N3LSA 2012-02-18 JAMES E MATTHEWS, COLUMBIA, MD
N3LSB 2012-02-26 DAVID P DRAKE, TANEYTOWN, MD

KB2OGJ 2012-02-18 WILLIAM F COWLES, WAVERLY, NY
KB2OGM 2012-02-18 JAIME P RIBEIRO, HILLSIDE, NJ
KB2OGN 2012-02-18 CARLOS R BARROS, ELIZABETH, NJ
KB2OGY 2012-02-18 JOHN G LAURENO, STATEN ISLAND, NY

KC2JCD 2012-02-04 Edward J Koster, Grantville, PA
KC2JCG 2012-02-04 Christopher J Cavaliere, Patchogue, NY
KC2JCM 2012-02-04 RYAN P CHRISTIE, PORT WASHINGTON, NY
KC2JCT 2012-02-06 Jamie C Mitchell, Brooklyn, NY
KC2JCU 2012-02-06 Alexander Asnes, Brooklyn, NY
KC2JCV 2012-02-06 Nicholas Aiese, Brooklyn, NY
KC2JCX 2012-02-06 Anne M Rascon, Brooklyn, NY
KC2JCY 2012-02-06 Seren Laibovitz, Brooklyn, NY
KC2JDA 2012-02-08 Matthew B Bell, Potsdam, NY
KC2JDE 2012-02-08 JOFFREY M MASON, WATERTOWN, NY
KC2JDF 2012-02-08 DAVID N WILLIAMS, NORTH SYRACUSE, NY
KC2JDJ 2012-02-12 Sammy D Ordonez, New York, NY
KC2JDM 2012-02-12 JAMES C LONG, GENEVA, NY
KC2JDR 2012-02-13 William Horowitz, Brooklyn, NY
KC2JEA 2012-02-16 JAMES J MUCCIO, Binghamton, NY
KC2JED 2012-02-19 James W Lawson, JOHNSON CITY, NY
KC2JEG 2012-02-20 Andrew M Vovou, Sr, Suffern, NY
KC2JEM 2012-02-25 J Bradley Williams, Avenel, NJ
KC2JER 2012-02-26 MAGELA DIAZ, PERTH AMBOY, NJ
KC2JEU 2012-02-27 Sagor E Hoque, Randolph, NJ
KC2JEV 2012-02-27 Tom M Pilholski, Sparta, NJ
KC2JEX 2012-02-27 Leslie R Gatechair, Treasure Island, FL
KC2JEY 2012-02-28 Daniel L Lopez, Elizabeth, NJ
KC2JEZ 2012-02-28 David L Huntington, Ithaca`, NY
KC2JFB 2012-02-28 Luis Segura, Paterson, NJ

This is just a small example of the number of people who got their license at the same time who are no longer licensed amateur radio operators. This happens every month.
Why does it happen?
Because without a proper Elmer and without someone in the neighborhood to talk to and without a proper club to hold these people in the hobby, without affordable used radio equipment that worked, they lost interest and went elsewhere.
 

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I just saw an article about how Amateur Radio is growing....

However 6-meters is under-utilized in part because of lack of inexpensive (as compared to 2-meter) equipment. Unfortunately 2-meters is following the same trend with the availability of 440 equipment.
Following Congressional action pandering to the voracious cellular industry, I have serious concerns over the long-term well being of 440. I own and operate a 440 repeater, but have recently been concentrating my effort on 2 meters (I'm fortunate to be in a region where 2 meter pairs are still available).

6 meters is a fine band and was our primary means of communication for many years in Missouri. One just has to be resourceful in making equipment or recognizing what can work. For the longest time, we had Motracs, RCA LD "Waffle Irons" (given to me by my Elmer back in the 70s), old PennDOT RCA-1000s (my favorite 6 meter radio - what got me hooked on 6 meters), Maratracs (my base radio, with a tone remote interface wired up to it), Syntor-X 9000, and Azden radios primarily for 52.525, but also on our own simplex and ultimately repeater pair. Even built a Hamtronics repeater back in the day (receiver worked wonderfully, transmitter worked, but the modulator couldn't achieve enough drive without distortion). Put a ball and spring mount on the car and you didn't need a repeater!

The only disappointments were TenTec's 6 meter mobile kit (absolutely terrible, not what I expected from TenTec at all) and Alinco's 10 Watt mobile which was on the right track for convenience, but wasn't worth fixing for its 10 W output.

There was a book called "Rockbound on Six" by Zen-in design. I just went searching for it on a search engine and couldn't find it anymore. I bought this book maybe 12 years ago (now, if I can find it...) and have converted several Maxars and Moxys very cheaply. Got them on auction sites and with some component changes and new crystals, they worked superbly. They're still elegant radios. It's kinda like 902-928 MHz (which I just haven't ever gotten into) it's all out there, but you have to be resourceful.
 

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I know around here everybody seems to be going to 440 and 2-M is very quiet. I remember back in the 1970s that you could not scan the 2-M band because of all the activity, now you can listen for hours on end (with exception of one repeater ;) ) and not hear any activity. Yes, 6-M was a great band for both FM and SSB. I just wish there was more off the shelf equipment available.
 

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What bugs me is this move toward multiband radios. I would love to have a discrete 6 meter radio, like an Icom IC-551D with the FM module. I have a Yaesu FT-620B set up, but it runs about 10 Watts and is deaf as a doorknob. I broke out some BNC connectors on the back around the TR relay and put a GaAs FET preamp on it, but then I needed a step attenuator to overcome the noise. I ran that thing on some VHF contests and it gets swamped by images. So, not the best thing. My wife got me a Down East Microwave 6 meter transverter kit maybe 14 years ago before N2CEI moved to Florida. THAT is a beautiful piece of equipment! I use it with my 751A. Super results. I moved a couple of years ago and just have to get my antenna back up at my new QTH. The new neighbors are just getting comfortable with what I have on the roof right now.

The guys about 15 years older than me told me about the days of 6 meter AM, with Gonsets, Heathkits, and Lafayette Radio Electronics. Imagine having a turnstile or squalo up on the roof! Those were epic ragchewing nets, I'm told. Legend has it that one fellow had a solid hour keydown and, when someone in the roundtable didn't respond, he called his wife to go check on him she found him deceased, slumped over at the mic waiting to get a word in edgewise! I caught the tail end of that. I had a 2 meter AM gooney box and a bag of crystals when I first got into the hobby. CQ and tuning!

I do remember having a cheap made-in-Japan AM/FM/"Public Service" band radio when I was a little kid. It was my world. Tune around the center and I picked up police calls. Tune to the right and it was the weather service. Tune around the left and I heard all these guys talking to each other about various stuff. I wanted to be one of them! Here I am :cool:
 

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Our local club has a net on 50.250 USB every Thursday at 830 local time, if conditions improve or become magical you may hear us. We use to do 10m but they changed due to the increase of the solar cycle.
 

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The guys about 15 years older than me told me about the days of 6 meter AM, with Gonsets, Heathkits, and Lafayette Radio Electronics. Imagine having a turnstile or squalo up on the roof! Those were epic ragchewing nets, I'm told. ...
My first Field Day was spent on 6M SSB. Worked all over the US with 50 watts and a beam up 15 feet.... Yes dem were the good ole' days...
 
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