A few new Hancock Co Freqs

[mtindor]

Existing license: WNZA772

460.6250 FB2 - Location: Chester
460.5875 MO
460.6250 MO
465.5875 MO
465.6250 MO

154.4450 FB - Location: New Cumberland
154.4450 MO

460.3625 FB
460.3625 MO


460.625 is already listed in the DB for Hancock Co / Chester Fire. I'd guess but can't be sure [haven't heard anything yet] that these are all fire frequencies, but ya never know.

So keep a listen out for 154.445, 460.3625, as well as 460.5875 and 465.5875.

NOTE: I have not confirmed [by listening] that any of these are in use as of yet, aside from what we already know of 460.625 / 465.625.

Mike

 

[colliers_628]

the 154.445 has to be coming from ohio...... the 460.3625 not sure but may be a wvsp link, and yes all the others are known firegrounds

 

[mtindor]

the 154.445 has to be coming from ohio...... the 460.3625 not sure but may be a wvsp link, and yes all the others are known firegrounds

Those frequencies are associated with the same license that the fire frequencies are associated - licensed to Hancock County Commission. So all of these frequencies are county frequencies. Some may have been in use in the past and may still be in use. Some are new [and may or may not be in use yet]. The "new" frequencies may or may not be fire related. That's why I posted them - so people can listen for traffic on them. Not sure how Ohio has anything to do with it.

Both 154.445 and 460.3625 have listed transmitter addresses of 102 N Court St, New Cumberland. I'm guessing at the courthouse. Both are non-repeater frequencies. Just simplex base/mobile. Could be courthouse comms, could be something else.

Mike

 

[colliers_628]

well considering columbiana co borders hancock, if someone in columbiana co uses that for a tac, but i'm tellin you hancock co does not and has not run or used 154.445. i should know ive been a firefighter for hancock and brooke counties for the past 20 years. why it would be licensed????? NOW that is a good question maybe a repeater or channel that got scrapped when cutting corners, though now that i just thought of it they could be bumping down to vhf cause weirton wont bump up to uhf, try to put everyone on one band i guess. let me know what you hear on that frequency

 

[mtindor]

well considering columbiana co borders hancock, if someone in columbiana co uses that for a tac, but i'm tellin you hancock co does not and has not run or used 154.445.

I haven't heard anything yet. However, as I mentioned above - it's a newly licensed frequency for Hancock County. So, I would tend to believe that if they just filed for a license for that frequency, they probably intend on using it for something. Whether it will be fire related or not, that remains to be seen. And yes I've seen many licensed frequencies in the past never get used. But that doesn't happen so much. If somebody recently filed for that frequency, I'm willing to bet at some point it will be used for something. The same applies to the few new UHF frequencies I posted as well.

let me know what you hear on that frequency

If I hear anything, I'll be sure to post. But I was kind of hoping that Hancock Co listeners would take the initiative to program the frequencies in their scanner and listen as well.

Mike

 

[digitalanalog]

In reference to 154.445 PL 167.90

I can confirm that Portage county: Mantua Shalerville FD Dispatch is on this freq.
The portage county RRDB shows a 612 DPL.

My ctcss is showing a PL tone of 167.9

As far as to Hancock county Using this freq, I can say i have never herd anything but Mantua here.

460.3625, has been in 3 of my scanners for a long time (i scan portage just to see how far out my antennas are reaching) and have never logged anything for this freq, so i can't help there.

Jim

 

[digitalanalog]

I added all the OP freq's in as soon as they were posted, FYI and nothing back yet.

Jim

 

[mtindor]

Ok, but I didn't post 154.445 wondering who was on it - I was posting to tell others that a license for Hancock County WV was updated with new frequencies, including 154.445 and so people who listen to Hancock Co should put it in their scanners just in case they start using it.

I mean, if it's a newly added frequency to a license, one has to make an assumption that they have some intent to use it for something over in Hancock Co.

If nobody wants to listen, and if I'm just pissing into the wind because people around the Upper Ohio Valley don't want to collaborate and be open minded, there is nothing I can do about that. I post what I hear and I post what is updated in FCC license data. If you guys want to print it out on paper and wipe your rear ends with it, so be it.

mike

 

[mtindor]

I added all the OP freq's in as soon as they were posted, FYI and nothing back yet.

Jim

Thanks Jim. I've heard nothing here as well.

mike

 

[digitalanalog]

That's not why i commented Mike,
Just posting what i receive on that freq.

And just because an agency has a freq listed to it does NOT mean they are using it.

Don't ask me why, but allot of the fCC database listed freq's are NEVER used by the people getting the license.

There are Tons of examples of this.

Jim

 

[mtindor]

And just because an agency has a freq listed to it does NOT mean they are using it.

Don't ask me why, but allot of the fCC database listed freq's are NEVER used by the people getting the license.

There are Tons of examples of this.

Jim

Ya know, all you and Colliers628 had to do was ignore the post. Instead, you guys have to come up with all kinds of theories as to why traffic will never be heard.

A few facts:

1. I posted a few "new" frequencies that were added to Hancock Co's license
2. Most of the time when an agency files for new frequencies, they use them

They may use the frequency some day, they may not. Hell, they may already have used it. Or, they may have filed for a new frequency simply to throw us scanner listeners off and cause turmoil amongst some members of our tight knit community. [Sense the sarcasm, it's there]

It' simple, don't program the frequency in - Don't listen for it. Continue to monitor frequencies from 20 years ago and pretend that nobody could possibly use something new. That's alright.

It's disheartening when you guys just want to be negative all the time.

Mike

 

[digitalanalog]

WOW, o.k., Mike.

 

[mtindor]

WOW, o.k., Mike.

ROFL, I';m PMSing Jim. Sorry about that. Hey, I might need to chill out, but you guys [notably the WV guys this was aimed at] need to just take it for what it's worth - I'm just tryin' to help out. If it ends up being a frequency of interest, great. If not, no loss - right? I'm just throwing it out there.

mike

 

[colliers_628]

mike, calm down, wasnt really being negative. i got friends that dispatch hancock co, i will inquire what is up, but with homeland security bull, its hard for even the guys at the fd to get the frequencies. i just hate to see the db loaded with frequencies that really have no use, i sorta get anal retentive about that. but i in no way meant to be negative to you or your post, sorry if you once again misunderstood me

 

[mtindor]

You may have noticed that the frequency is not listed in the DB, nor will it be unless it is confirmed as active at some point by somebody. I agree with you about the inactive frequencies in the DB.

There are only a couple in the DB for Hancock Co that are likely defunct - primarily the low band SO stuff. Of course, unless somebody has definitive information that the radios were pulled from service from all cars and bases, those freqs likely will remain in the DB. I don't like it, but I am not a policymaker rofl. As for 462.125 - I don't know where that freq came from, but it's consistently used by Columbiana Co Metro Housing. In two years I've never heard any activity on it from Hancock Co OES. I still keep an ear peeled though.

For all other frequencies, I've heard traffic on every other listed base/repeater output listed. Fireground freqs - I've never heard anything on them personally, but I'm sure you guys who are closer and listen to them have. SO and PD Tac channels - I haven't heard anything on them. but I'm sure you'll agree they probably do exist still. 155.370 is used quite a bit around Hancock Co / Columbiana Co between agencies.

Yeah I do get touchy when I toss a new frequency out there and then other people are basically encouraged to not monitor them simply because somebody else has never heard traffic on them. If it's a brand new licensed freq, it's worth listening for traffic on. Of course, there are exceptions - Look at the Brooke 911 freqs, which have been listed at the bottom of the Brooke Co DB for a few years - I have never had any traffic on them yet [other than frequent CW ids. They may or may not ever be used.

So trust me, I recognize that just because it is in an FCC database doesn't mean that it is active. But conversely, if it's new in the FCC database, I would think it's worth listening for traffic.

Mike

 

[digitalanalog]

mtindor, Mike

I have been monitoring all the freq's in the OP all day long on three scanners using 3 different antennas facing three different directions (the antennas that is)

And i just received the first hit on the freq's listed above.

at 7:35pm
460.625 PL 71.9

herd fire pager tones (a bunch of them) s meter is 2 bars (BC895XLT)

dispatch was very hard to hear, but i could hear "Hancock county fire pagers testing at ????????????????"

Good deal, that's a long way's away for me to be getting 2 bars.
as well, it was using my home made yagi only mounted at 20' facing lisbon (general direction of hancock county from where i am located) and the antenna is pointed at 80' pine tree's

So go figure...........

Just wanted to pass this info on to you Mike as well as anyone else checking these freq's.
Thanks
Jim

 

[mtindor]

That is a great sig for you from your location to where the fire band repeater is - a testament to your antenna system's performance I'm sure. Pretty nice.

460.625 has been in use for many years and is documented in the DB - Some of the frequencies on the license you are listening to have been around a while (the license itself has been around a while) - Only certain frequencies are "new" frequencies, and those include 154.445 and 460.3625. The license was merely "modified" to include those few new frequencies.

Mike

 

[digitalanalog]

O.K., Very Good, Thanks
Jim