A Few Questions about Wouxon Radios

[squirrel911]

Hello All,

I was hoping maybe some of you may be able to answer a few questions I have about the Wouxon Radios. They are listed below. Please number your answers so it is easier for me to keep up. I am not as good as some of you at this. LOL Thanks ahead of time for your help.

Kevin

1) How durable is the HT verison?

2) I have heard that they are FCC Part 90 certified. Is that Correct? Can they be used on commercial/public safety freqs legally? (Yes I have permission to be on my local public safety freqs as I am a FF/EMT)

3) Are the channels able to be labeled using words?

4) Anyone know of a price for the mobile Wouxon yet?

5) How clear is the radio?

6) Anyone use it during an emergency (fire call, medical call, rescue) and if so how did it work for you?

7) Would you recommend this radio to people?

Again thank you all again. I have posted photos of the radios I am talking about below.

 

[LtDoc]

I have a KG-UV2D hand held by Wouxun. It doesn't have a lot of the 'bells-n-whistles' the big name brands have, but I honestly don't miss them either. It does the typical 5 watt handy-talky stuff on 2 meters and 70 cm. It IS legal for Part-90 use, and that can certainly come in handy. It can do the standard 'PL' tones, and off sets (although since the RCV and TX freqs are entered anyway, the off set feature is sort of redundant.
It does have some 'odd' programming characteristics, it definitely is not the usual methods used by the big names. The computer programming for it is a worthwhile investment, makes things much easier! The supplied dual-band antenna isn't all that bad really. It's a 'rubberduck' so don't expect miracles. It uses an SMA antenna connector so an adapter is nice to have for the other types of connectors (I hate SMA thingys.)
It also does the FM broadcast band, and has an LED flashlight built in. I guess those are handy, but I wouldn't miss them if they weren't there. Oh well.
I have no idea about the mobile radio they are coming out with, no one else does either, so just have to wait and see.
I don't have much use for hand held radios generally. The Part-90 certification, and the price were the biggies for me buying this one. (Price more than anything really.) It's doing what I want it to do, so I can't complain.
- 'Doc


The Wouxun radios are changeable in coverage by a computer program. It, along with the Wouxun programing for the HTs are available on the internet.
There's another brand by the name of 'TYT' that's basically the same radio with a different case. Don't know anything about them, just that they are there.

 

[rfradioconsult]

Hello All,

I was hoping maybe some of you may be able to answer a few questions I have about the Wouxon Radios. They are listed below. Please number your answers so it is easier for me to keep up. I am not as good as some of you at this. LOL Thanks ahead of time for your help.

Kevin

1) How durable is the HT verison?

Appears to be equlivent to the current Icom and Kenwood products

2) I have heard that they are FCC Part 90 certified. Is that Correct? Can they be used on commercial/public safety freqs legally? (Yes I have permission to be on my local public safety freqs as I am a FF/EMT)

The KG-UVD1P is FCC approved for Part 90, both VHF and UHF, wideband and narrowband FCC ID WVTWOUXUN04

3) Are the channels able to be labeled using words?
Alpha-numeric tags and channel number

4) Anyone know of a price for the mobile Wouxon yet?

5) How clear is the radio?
Good reports transmitting and receiving


6) Anyone use it during an emergency (fire call, medical call, rescue) and if so how did it work for you?
No reason for it not to work, but remember it's a $100 radio not a $3000 radio.

7) Would you recommend this radio to people?
Yes, mine came with the USB cable, earpiece, auto charging cable

Again thank you all again. I have posted photos of the radios I am talking about below.

Read above

 

[squirrel911]

I have a KG-UV2D hand held by Wouxun. It doesn't have a lot of the 'bells-n-whistles' the big name brands have, but I honestly don't miss them either. It does the typical 5 watt handy-talky stuff on 2 meters and 70 cm. It IS legal for Part-90 use, and that can certainly come in handy. It can do the standard 'PL' tones, and off sets (although since the RCV and TX freqs are entered anyway, the off set feature is sort of redundant.
It does have some 'odd' programming characteristics, it definitely is not the usual methods used by the big names. The computer programming for it is a worthwhile investment, makes things much easier! The supplied dual-band antenna isn't all that bad really. It's a 'rubberduck' so don't expect miracles. It uses an SMA antenna connector so an adapter is nice to have for the other types of connectors (I hate SMA thingys.)
It also does the FM broadcast band, and has an LED flashlight built in. I guess those are handy, but I wouldn't miss them if they weren't there. Oh well.
I have no idea about the mobile radio they are coming out with, no one else does either, so just have to wait and see.
I don't have much use for hand held radios generally. The Part-90 certification, and the price were the biggies for me buying this one. (Price more than anything really.) It's doing what I want it to do, so I can't complain.
- 'Doc


The Wouxun radios are changeable in coverage by a computer program. It, along with the Wouxun programing for the HTs are available on the internet.
There's another brand by the name of 'TYT' that's basically the same radio with a different case. Don't know anything about them, just that they are there.

Thank you. Thats answers some things.

Read above

Thank you. Thats answers some things.

 

[W2NJS]

How can this radio be Part 90 certified if it's got FPP capability, which it looks like it does? Just curious. Obviously this would be okay for hams and Feds but not for cities/states/locals, etc.

 

[KB0VWG]

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Hello All,

I was hoping maybe some of you may be able to answer a few questions I have about the Wouxon Radios. They are listed below. Please number your answers so it is easier for me to keep up. I am not as good as some of you at this. LOL Thanks ahead of time for your help.

Kevin

1) How durable is the HT verison?

2) I have heard that they are FCC Part 90 certified. Is that Correct? Can they be used on commercial/public safety freqs legally? (Yes I have permission to be on my local public safety freqs as I am a FF/EMT)

3) Are the channels able to be labeled using words?

4) Anyone know of a price for the mobile Wouxon yet?

5) How clear is the radio?

6) Anyone use it during an emergency (fire call, medical call, rescue) and if so how did it work for you?

7) Would you recommend this radio to people?

Again thank you all again. I have posted photos of the radios I am talking about below.

Take a look at the post on this forum we were discussing about the wouxan mobile and where its being sold as of right now.

http://forums.radioreference.com/am...2443-wouxun-dual-band-kg-uv920r-mobile-2.html

Scroll down to almost the bottom and you will see a link to a place that is selling them which for now is in mexico.
Michael
kb0vwg

 

[squirrel911]

I found this

How can this radio be Part 90 certified if it's got FPP capability, which it looks like it does? Just curious. Obviously this would be okay for hams and Feds but not for cities/states/locals, etc.

I found this document. i believe it is the FCC Part 90 cert for this radio. So I guess it is.


https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb...ode=&application_id=877723&fcc_id=WVTWOUXUN04

 

[ai8o]

How can this radio be Part 90 certified if it's got FPP capability, which it looks like it does? Just curious. Obviously this would be okay for hams and Feds but not for cities/states/locals, etc.

How did you get the Idea that FPP capable radios cannot be part 90 certified?

The Wouxun KG-UVD1 series has an FCC part 90 compliance Certification.
You can look it up on the FCC website.

Part 90 FCC rules is EXACTLY where NON Federal State County and local Police, fire,EMS and local governments are licensed.

Federal government users are controlled by NTIA. Which has its own separate technical rules.
And this radio has Not been NTIA certified compliant yet. Although most part 90 radios are also NTIA certified.

 

[squirrel911]

How can this radio be Part 90 certified if it's got FPP capability, which it looks like it does? Just curious. Obviously this would be okay for hams and Feds but not for cities/states/locals, etc.

What is FPP???

 

[dwh367]

What is FPP???

Front Panel Programmable.

 

[KD8DVR]

OK... FPP radios CAN be Part 90 certified IF this programmability can be locket out. The KG-UVD1p has this ability. Using the computer software, all menu functions can be locked out. Thus the radio is Part 90 compliant.

 

[n8emr]

The radio is basicly left in Front panel programming mode for ham use and locked for part 90 users.
There are a number of FPP part 90 radios.

 

[squirrel911]

So why cant a Part 90 radio be FPP in the field??

 

[KD8DVR]

So why cant a Part 90 radio be FPP in the field??

Business and other Part 90 services are licensed to specific frequencies. It would not do for someone to mess with their radios and have them go where they are not supposed to.

 

[squirrel911]

What about like where my father works. He is a captain for IES and he responsed all over the country for industrial emergencies and I thought about getting him this radio to use because it is FPP. Is that legal?

 

[squirrel911]

Another Questions

I have a couple more questions please.

1) I see in the picture is shows dual freqs on the display. Top one and Bottom One. Is it always like that or can you make it a single freq display?

2) Can you set up like scan groups in it?

 

[LtDoc]

1. The dual frequency display if optional, it can be turned off. Mine has a "UV2D" displayed for the turned off one, it isn't blank.

2. You can set up scanning to cover only the frequencies you want scanned. There's only one 'group' of frequencies.

It's MUCH easier to do that configuring by using the computer programming capabilities, but it can also be done from the front panel buttons.
- 'Doc

 

[nd5y]

I bought a KG-UV2D last week.
Mine doesn't look like the picture above. Apparently they changed the shiny dark copper colored trim piece to black crinkle finish like the rest of the case.
I like it real well. It has great audio and recevie sensitivity.
It does not make a good scanner and there are issues with using it for public safety or business purposes.

Here are some things that people should be aware of:

1. Narrowband mode is only on transmit. No narrowband receive.
2. The smallest channel steps are 5 and 6.25 kHz. It will not tune to most 7.5 kHz channels on VHF.
3. No PL reverse burst on transmit and doesn't mute on reverse burst on receive. It transmits a short delay like reverse burst (even in CSQ for some reason) but drops the tone instead of phase shifting. The mic stays hot during this time. DCS turnoff code works normally with no problem on transmit or receive but again the mic is hot during the turnoff code.
4. Scan list is only programmable via software. It is not possible to add, delete, or lock out channels via the keypad.
5. Extremely slow scan speed, only about 5 channels per second.
6. If the backlight is enabled, it stays on while scanning, shuts of when scan stops on an active channel, and turns back on when scan resumes.
7. In PL/DCS decode mode, scan stops on carrier (busy) even if there is no PL/DCS present.
8. There is no DC power jack. You can only charge the battery in the drop-in charger which does have a DC jack.
9. Alpha tags are only 6 characters and only A-Z, 0-9 and space, no dash or any other characters.

The programming software from wouxun.us will not allow spaces in the alpha tag although you can add spaces via the keypad.

The KG-UV3D programming software from Powerwerx.com allows spaces and works with the KG-UV2D. I don't know if it is compatible with the KG-UVD1 and KG-UVD1P.

Anybody considering one of these for public safety or business use should pay particular attention to 1. and 2.

 

[N1BHH]

The case differences are superficial. Different production versions of the case, the radio remains the same. I know someone who has one with the shiny brown trim on it and others have reported a dull brown trim. I have 2 of the KG-UV2D (2m/70cm) versions that are all black and another 2m/1.25 version that shipped from NC yesterday. I like these radios and waiting on the shipment which brings me a couple speaker microphones with the radio, and the 1700mAH batteries are on back order.

 

[KD8DVR]

Narrow band receive should not be an issue. It still should receive.

The DCS issues: Haven't tried them, but as an amateur radio operator, DCS really hasn't come into play.

This is interesting though.

You ought to address these issues on the Yahoo group, where folks from Wouxun are there and listen to issues. Obviously, there are things that haven't been taken into consideration.

Group here:

Wouxun_KG-UVD1 : Wouxun KG-UVD1