Good Morning,
Not sure if I asked this before or not but in Sentinel under department's should AGC be ON or OFF ?
Thanks
Not sure if I asked this before or not but in Sentinel under department's should AGC be ON or OFF ?
Thanks
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JamesO
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What radio are you working with?
I am not convinced it actually works or does anything based on my experimentation. Additionally if it is on a radio with the 2-3 different settings, nowhere have I ever seen a guide, description of settings or a White Paper on how any of the setting affect a signal.
Might try setting up 2 identical systems, one with and one without the AGC enabled and see if you notice a difference.
I am not convinced it actually works or does anything based on my experimentation. Additionally if it is on a radio with the 2-3 different settings, nowhere have I ever seen a guide, description of settings or a White Paper on how any of the setting affect a signal.
Might try setting up 2 identical systems, one with and one without the AGC enabled and see if you notice a difference.
I have the BCD436HP SCANNER
Ubbe
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It's an audio AGC that tries to even out the min and max. It's hardly noticable, if it at all works.
On the BCT15 and HP-1 one can adjust the settings to make a bigger change to the audio and at max settings it will give a very noticable pumping effect in the audio.
There haven't been any reports of how to access the AGC settings in the x36 series.
/Ubbe
On the BCT15 and HP-1 one can adjust the settings to make a bigger change to the audio and at max settings it will give a very noticable pumping effect in the audio.
There haven't been any reports of how to access the AGC settings in the x36 series.
/Ubbe
Good Morning,
Thanks for all the info on this, I did leave out one thing this AGC is a DIGITAL AGC on my BCD436HP , as of right now in Sentinel under my county it has the AGC set to on.
Again should this be on or set to off ? Again thank you for all the info on this.
Thanks for all the info on this, I did leave out one thing this AGC is a DIGITAL AGC on my BCD436HP , as of right now in Sentinel under my county it has the AGC set to on.
Again should this be on or set to off ? Again thank you for all the info on this.
I leave mine off. It doesn't seem to work anyway.
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majoco
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AGC does nothing for an FM or FMN signal - in fact the gain is probably maximum and amplitude variations are clipped off (limiting) to prevent noise spikes getting through.
AM (aircraft band) may be helped with AGC on to help smooth out signal amplitude variations to bring audio up to the same level.
AM (aircraft band) may be helped with AGC on to help smooth out signal amplitude variations to bring audio up to the same level.
Ubbe
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AM AGC is a different thing and acts on the gain of the RF to not clip the AM modulation.
AGC on FM and digital is pure audio level control.
My AOR AR8200 actually have RF AGC on FM as well. You can select to have it active on FM and when you come near a tower that usually creates intermod mess with another scanner the AOR reduces gain to avoid this. It is very apparent as you loose the coverage but rather that than listening to intermod. But it also fools you thinking that the scanner has an incredible frontend when you never hear any interferencies.
/Ubbe
AGC on FM and digital is pure audio level control.
My AOR AR8200 actually have RF AGC on FM as well. You can select to have it active on FM and when you come near a tower that usually creates intermod mess with another scanner the AOR reduces gain to avoid this. It is very apparent as you loose the coverage but rather that than listening to intermod. But it also fools you thinking that the scanner has an incredible frontend when you never hear any interferencies.
/Ubbe
Valeriy
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I can confirm it is non-working: I never noticed any difference in the audio either with the AGC turned ON or OFF.
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Ok thanks for all the replies I will set mine to off than, again thanks to everyone.
Ok thanks for all the replies I will set mine to off than, again thanks to everyone.
Ubbe
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I tested the analog FM AGC, and it should be valid also for digital AGC, and it is working.
I entered a DMR channel, that transmits data with 2 sec intervals, as an FM analog type only and tested AGC on and off with squelch open.
Without AGC the noise are easily noticed as being much louder than the data signal.
Using AGC the audio level is equal for both noise and data and when data starts the level of audio is first low and then increase very fast during a few milliseconds to equal the noise level.
It could benefit by having a bigger dynamic gain, as I have manually set in BCT15 and HP-1, but as long as we don't have access to the service menu we can't do much about it.
But as the AGC actually works I recommend to always have it on. You normally only disable AGC if you get annoyed by the pumping effect from the audio. No risk with that when Uniden uses these kind of moderate default values.
/Ubbe
I entered a DMR channel, that transmits data with 2 sec intervals, as an FM analog type only and tested AGC on and off with squelch open.
Without AGC the noise are easily noticed as being much louder than the data signal.
Using AGC the audio level is equal for both noise and data and when data starts the level of audio is first low and then increase very fast during a few milliseconds to equal the noise level.
It could benefit by having a bigger dynamic gain, as I have manually set in BCT15 and HP-1, but as long as we don't have access to the service menu we can't do much about it.
But as the AGC actually works I recommend to always have it on. You normally only disable AGC if you get annoyed by the pumping effect from the audio. No risk with that when Uniden uses these kind of moderate default values.
/Ubbe
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