For years now I've been picking up Pulaski County Rural Fire Dispatch on 155.385 MHz PL 179.9 Hz from my home in Russellville, but it comes across as being AirEvac Gainesville MO, which is dispatched on the same frequency and PL tone. It seems that it is set for "statewide" in the database. Is there a way to narrow that down to just the Baxter County area, or must it be set in the database as "statewide"?
AirEvac in DB as statewide?
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I believe wbswetnam means if the scanner is programmed from the database, and that frequency and PL are entered as 'AirEvac Gainesville statewide' in the database, that is what is showing up as the channel name on his scanner instead of the 'Pulaski Rural Fire' he desires to listen to. He's asking if the AirEvac tag can be removed from statewide so he can have the actual channel name for what he is listening to.
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You may be right on that. @wbswetnam What scanner are you using? There may be a workaround.
Sure there's a workaround. Again, he's asking why is it in the db as statewide when it should probably be local to the AirEvac base state/county...
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Medical helicopter services are supposed to all be on the areawide or state agencies list for each state, not individual county pages, but since the database is a mess it isn't like that for every state.
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What's the workaround then, aside from updating the database?
Medical Helicopters are state wide use or even multiple state use I think it is fine just the way TN AR KY are
Helicopters have a home base and if they are using a local repeater for comms (e.g. Survival Flight), there’s no reason for them to be listed statewide since the repeater only has a certain footprint.
I can’t read his mind but I feel like this is what swetnam was talking about. Maybe.
I can’t read his mind but I feel like this is what swetnam was talking about. Maybe.
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Yep, but that's not what the people running the db believe.
But it is a lot easer to find the entire state than looking in every county in the state to find the bases you can hear. I hear bases from 4 states plus aircraft use the dispatch channel for a base several counties away. Makes for setting up a scanner much easier when you snag all at the same time.
So there needs to be a section in each state in the db for this type stuff, perhaps. But I see it making more sense listing it for the areas it is rather than statewide when it can’t be heard statewide.
Precisely. Sure, the workaround is to use favorites lists, which I am very familiar with. Just as 03msc says above, since the repeater is for local use only for extreme north central Arkansas, and the footprint of the repeater does not extend beyond that, there's no point in having it in the DB as statewide.
My reason for the post is that sometimes as I am driving across the state, I have my mobile-mounted 536HP in the car using the GPS module to adjust the programming as I progress across the state. Pretty convenient! But as I am going through the Little Rock area, sometimes Pulaski County rural fire comes up from the full database as "AirEvac - Gainesville", which obviously it is not. The best solution is to adjust the size of the footprint in the RRDB for that AirEvac- Gainesville repeater to just the Baxter County area, instead of being statewide. I had this discussion about a year ago with milf with regard to Fort Smith fire dispatch having statewide status in the AWIN database instead of localized to Sebastian County.
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A Helicopter flying at 1000 feet works its simplex channel a longer range than using walkies or mobiles on the ground. I can hear the aircraft further than the base range. I hear a Base Dispatch 40 miles away I hear the Aircraft on the same frequency 60 to 70 miles away.
That doesn’t change a repeater’s footprint which is what he was referring to.
If one of their repeaters should be listed as statewide then any VFD’s should be, too? The volly might drive to another part of the state at some point, after all…
If they had a statewide linked system then that might be different.
If one of their repeaters should be listed as statewide then any VFD’s should be, too? The volly might drive to another part of the state at some point, after all…
If they had a statewide linked system then that might be different.
A fire department does not fly and operate at 1000 feet with a radio range of over 100 miles.
A repeater output most likely isn’t going to reach your scanner at 100 miles…
I’m not sure why this is hard to follow here…
You’re not wrong in your statement, no, but it’s also not what the topic is about. Unless I have misunderstood the original question by @wbswetnam somehow…?
I’m not sure why this is hard to follow here…
You’re not wrong in your statement, no, but it’s also not what the topic is about. Unless I have misunderstood the original question by @wbswetnam somehow…?
Most AirEvac Base Dispatch Radios are SIMPLEX ROIP back to CENTCOM so I hear the Helicopters talk back to Dispatch 60 miles easy.
I hear Aircraft operating that I can not even hear the area they are operating in.
It is no different than asking for the AWIN TG that ASP uses in the county you live in to posted in your county database.
I hear Aircraft operating that I can not even hear the area they are operating in.
It is no different than asking for the AWIN TG that ASP uses in the county you live in to posted in your county database.
The difference is you're talking about a legit statewide system vs a local frequency.
I get it - the helicopters fly all around the state or perhaps more than one state but it's still not the same as a statewide system (which does have location based scanning options if entered correctly).
The local SF repeater is setup like a standard duplex repeater - it's UHF with a +5MHz input frequency and they get into it from Little Rock sometimes, as well as Jonesboro, etc. Perhaps since AE is using simplex to their ROIP site that is the difference but anyway, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this minor subject.
The good thing is: people can customize the programming for their scanner and set it up how they want. I can 100% see why he asked the question but as far as listening to a helicopter's transmit frequency (whether to a simplex site or a true duplex repeater) I understand that you can monitor that whenever they're close enough to open the squelch.
I get it - the helicopters fly all around the state or perhaps more than one state but it's still not the same as a statewide system (which does have location based scanning options if entered correctly).
The local SF repeater is setup like a standard duplex repeater - it's UHF with a +5MHz input frequency and they get into it from Little Rock sometimes, as well as Jonesboro, etc. Perhaps since AE is using simplex to their ROIP site that is the difference but anyway, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this minor subject.
The good thing is: people can customize the programming for their scanner and set it up how they want. I can 100% see why he asked the question but as far as listening to a helicopter's transmit frequency (whether to a simplex site or a true duplex repeater) I understand that you can monitor that whenever they're close enough to open the squelch.
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