Alachua County changed their trunking

[nikicaligiuri]

Does anyone have any intel on what the new Trunks and TGs are? I heard from an LEO that they changed recently after I noticed all agencies went dark on my Home Patrol II.

 

[james32746]

This is what system they are on now:

Alachua County - Gainesville Regional Utilities (GRUCom Project 25) System

 

[whooey]

Multiply all the old TG's by 16, PM sent.

 

[SRSP2282]

Doing the multiplication trick is only a guide... It works for many TGs but there are a bunch that are not following this pattern. Unfortunately the database got updated with a bunch of unconfirmed TGs that got submitted by someone who just multiplied them all by 16.

 

[whooey]

I can confirm the 16 rule works here. At least all the channels I listen to on the system. GPD/ASO/ACFR/GFR

 

[GTR8000]

Multiply all the old TG's by 16, PM sent.

Divide the SZ talkgroups by 16 to get P25 equivalent, not multiply.

 

[whooey]

That's right!! I apologize lol.

 

[batdude]

for what it's worth... these are the TGs I logged.... this system is only copyable for me when the band is really open to the north and usually only in the very early morning hours... 3-7am.

P25, BEE00.4D9, 2057, 50, Normal, 8, 2020/06/28 7:12, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 2149, 50, Normal, 1, 2020/06/10 5:27, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 2187, 50, Normal, 2, 2020/06/28 7:13, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 3091, 50, Normal, 1, 2020/06/10 4:09, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 3097, 50, Normal, 2, 2020/06/10 5:30, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 3107, 50, Normal, 2, 2020/06/10 5:30, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 4011, 50, Normal, 2, 2020/06/10 4:09, ""

 

[wsmoore]

Batdude, Can you post some of the RID's you have logged? I need to see where their ID's fall on the State Id Plan. Should be in the 3000000 Range if they upgraded their radios too. Thanks, Shep

 

[batdude]

Batdude, Can you post some of the RID's you have logged? I need to see where their ID's fall on the State Id Plan. Should be in the 3000000 Range if they upgraded their radios too. Thanks, Shep

this system is really a long stretch for me - i can only hear it when the band is just right so this is all that I've logged - but seems to fit what you stated:

; Alachua County GRUCom

P25, BEE00.4D9, -2, 3000424, 50, Normal, 0, 2020/06/10 5:29, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 2057, 34112, 50, Normal, 2, 2020/06/28 7:12, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 2057, 3060416, 50, Normal, 1, 2020/06/28 7:12, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 2057, 3060506, 50, Normal, 0, 2020/06/10 5:30, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 2101, 3055065, 50, Normal, 0, 2020/06/28 7:13, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 2147, 3000636, 50, Normal, 0, 2020/06/10 5:28, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 2187, 34301, 50, Normal, 1, 2020/06/28 7:13, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 3091, 3050624, 50, Normal, 1, 2020/06/10 4:09, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 3097, 3051009, 50, Normal, 0, 2020/06/10 5:31, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 3097, 3051118, 50, Normal, 0, 2020/06/10 5:30, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 3097, 3051215, 50, Normal, 0, 2020/06/10 5:30, ""
P25, BEE00.4D9, 3107, 34207, 50, Normal, 1, 2020/06/10 5:30, ""

 

[SRSP2282]

Batdude, Can you post some of the RID's you have logged? I need to see where their ID's fall on the State Id Plan. Should be in the 3000000 Range if they upgraded their radios too. Thanks, Shep

Interesting, I didn't realize there was a state plan... That's cool. Yep most (like 99%) of the RIDs are in the 3000000 range. Some of the console radios are still the old ID from the SmartZone system. Here are some notes I made a while back when I was watching new radios get migrated over to the P25 system. (Its not complete, and needs some work... just some notes I was keeping to see if there was a pattern in RIDs to make identifying new RIDs easier in the future)

3000xxx ACSO
3036xxx ACFR
3046xxx Animal Control
3051xxx RTS
3055xxx GFR
3060xxx GPD
3070xxx GRU
30754xx High Springs
3087xxx APD
30905xx SFCPD
3094xxx UPD
330xxxx Marion County Radios

 

[batdude]

There are several references in various DMS publications to a P25 RID numbering plan. The below picture is taken from a manual located here:



the link in the picture above is a 404 dead end.


several additional documents are posted here, but the P25 RID plan is not one of them.

here is another good resource - note the link for "Table 4" - this lays out what county gets what allocation on 800MHz channels.


finally, rooting around a bit, I found this web site... caprad.org there are some interesting links here - but navigating the page is a bit odd - use the drop down at the upper right to select a region and county...

here is a sample data pull for Osceola from the caprad web page... note that there are 3 PSIC sites in Osceola... B, E and G. Interesting.

 

[wsmoore]

Here is the state plan . I have to get a list on the break down on all the region 3 id's for the other counties I have . I post when I get it done.

 

[KO4IPV]

This is what system they are on now:

Alachua County - Gainesville Regional Utilities (GRUCom Project 25) System

When I open up Sentinel download for updates will this write my scanner?

 

[wsmoore]

No You have to do the Sentinel first then click write to scanner.

 

[KO4IPV]

No You have to do the Sentinel first then click write to scanner.

I think that is what I am asking not to sure all new at this, put this another way after I open Sentinel 2.02.01 go to Alachua county references to updated frequency highlight then click write to scanner?

 

[wsmoore]

No if You go to updates in the tabs the scanner checks the version of your database if it's not the newest version it updates it. Then all you do is write to scanner and it is updated in the scanner. Then go find Alachua County file in national data base and append to your favorites list.You will need to delete the old file in your favorites file first.

 

[KO4IPV]

No if You go to updates in the tabs the scanner checks the version of your database if it's not the newest version it updates it. Then all you do is write to scanner and it is updated in the scanner. Then go find Alachua County file in national data base and append to your favorites list.You will need to delete the old file in your favorites file first.

I think I have it Thankyou , will try all this , so before I renew or update Alachua first do the update, then go to national data base and append to favorites list , but make sure delete old favorites list of Alachua first .