Albany County P25

[Thunderknight]

Sorry! It's a PSR 500??

If it's like the Radio Shack equivalent models, when you are scanning the trunked system, hit manual, press the button under TSYS, press the analyze button, and then use up and down to find 859.7125. Make sure you hear the control channel, and look at the percentage that flashes on the display. A good decode is like 99%. If it's low or fluctuating a lot, you need to try moving your scanner around or try a yagi antenna.

 

[sav1350]

Also, I've heard cross-system testing of 7600 units on the Cohoes PD VHF channel before it went silent. If I had to guess, I'd say the 6200 series may be Green Island PD.

Interesting that you heard 7600 units on Cohoes PD VHF because from the traffic I've been hearing, I would have thought 7600 units were Green Island and 6200 were Cohoes. I have heard a lot more traffic from 6200 units going on calls that appear to be in the City of Cohoes. I barely hear many 7600 unit and based on the size of Green Island I would have assumed that was why. I certainly could be wrong though. I'll have to keep an ear out for more 7600 units.

As far as RIDs go, they appear to be lining up somewhat with unit numbers. For example unit 6210's mobile appear to be 13066210 and their portable appear to be 130663xx but those do no line up with the unit numbers. My guess is that the portable is assigned to the officer and not the unit which is what a lot of other places do as well. 9800 units appear to be 130998xx and their portables appear to be 130991xx and 130990xx. Again the mobiles appear to match where the portables do not. I have not heard enough 7600 units to say for sure if they match but the few I have heard did match.

Another interesting note is that serveral times I have heard 6200 units and 9800 units refer to "Channel 3" and "The TAC Channel" and then they switch to an encrypted TG that appears to be specific to that agency. Initially this would appear as though each agency is getting it's own encrypted TG but it may be to early to say that for sure. We'll have to see as other agencies join on, how that pans out. Besides the previous comment about Cohoes FD switching next week, has anyone else heard anything about timeline for other agencies? The only other thing I heard was that ACSO would be last.

 

[Thunderknight]

Interesting that you heard 7600 units on Cohoes PD VHF because from the traffic I've been hearing, I would have thought 7600 units were Green Island and 6200 were Cohoes.

Based on locations:

I think 76xx units are Green Island PD.

98xx appear to be Watervliet PD (as LathamScan said).

62xx are Cohoes PD.

Notice that is also in alphabetical order (6 C, 7 G, 9 W) so that might make sense too.

 

[bob550]

There's now a link in the RR database to import "Albany County (APCO P25)" into your choice of software. I've done that and uploaded to my 996xt. I intend to check the database frequently for updates since the system is new. I've also locked out the control channel frequency common to the town of Colonie for now. Is there anything else that anyone recommends for monitoring this right now?

 

[jgorman21]

Albany County P 25

Thank you. As soon as I programmed it this way I started getting some traffic. However, some of it was Colonie because of that common frequency. I have since removed that and will see what we get?

 

[jgorman21]

Albany County O 25

Even after removing the Colonie freq I'm still getting it and the 1933 talk group!

This system seems to be a bit of a challenge??

 

[Thunderknight]

Even after removing the Colonie freq I'm still getting it and the 1933 talk group!

This system seems to be a bit of a challenge??

Are you programming with software, if so, which one?

 

[sallen07]

Colonies control channel moved

Even after removing the Colonie freq I'm still getting it and the 1933 talk group!

This system seems to be a bit of a challenge??

I was the one who thought I was listening to the Albany system last week when it was really Colonie, because the two system have overlapping control channels. And there are actually TWO that are shared, and it looks like the Colonie one changed. If you lock out or delete 859.2625 you should b able to hear Albany. The Albany P25 CC is 859.7125

 

[hummn]

Sorry new to the thread,I started to run 859.7125 as the cc since last night
So far the only other frequencies that have come up are 852.575 , 853.3625 , 855.7125
With these ID's 10003,11003,11943,11953,11983
Site ID is 690
Using pro106 with win 500
When I tried adding the other frequencies that are in the data base I get a lot of colonie as well

 

[DaveNF2G]

I agree with the alphabetical order theory. That is how Albany County has been numbering police and fire units outside Albany and Colonie all along. (Actually, even the Albany and Colonie units are "assigned" blocks of numbers consistent with the rest of the county, but they don't use them.)

I've been sitting on Watervliet's old TRBO channel all day and it has fallen silent. They might be using it for occasional data, but on a Sunday it's hard to tell.

 

[jgorman21]

Albany County P 25

Great responses here.

In response to the earlier question, I have used the "win 500" software with the PSR 500 for quite some time!

Thank you to all!

 

[Thunderknight]

In response to the earlier question, I have used the "win 500" software with the PSR 500 for quite some time!

Open your file (or read the scanner), open the TSYS Objects tab, Highlight the Albany County system. Click the System Frequencies button on the right side. Remove (zero out) the 859.2625 and 860.2625 frequencies. Okay that, Reprogram and you shouldn't hear the Colonie traffic any longer.

 

[jgorman21]

Albany County P 25

Ok. "Zeroed" those out! So far hearing nada again! I'll listen for a long period and see what transpires!

Thanks!

 

[DaveNF2G]

I am hearing 5900-series numbers on the ACSO talkgroup. I think they are Coeymans PD.

 

[hummn]

I've been monitoring this for a couple days now and using only the cc ,just wondering if the frequencies in the data base are correct? I have not seen 851.2625 come up but 853.3625 does come up.
Using 859.7125 as th cc I get a lot of traffic, some encrypted. Some analog,mostly digital.
i have not run into the problems others have mentioned about Colonie.
These are the results so far

859.7125 cc , 852.575 , 853.3625 . 855.7125

10003
10006
11003
11702
11943
11953
11983

 

[DaveNF2G]

Frequencies lower than 852 are not part of the Metrocell.

There should be no analog traffic on the system.

I am not sure about the 9000-series "interagency talkgroups" listed in the DB. The only thing like that I have seen is i9914, which is the radio ID (not TGID) for the Sheriff's patch from VHF.

 

[Thunderknight]

According to Pro96Com, 851.2625 is running the CWID for the cell. Other than a morse ID, there should be no analog on the system.
I have seen some encrypted transmissions, not many though.

I logged some "testing interagency nn" type transmissions on a couple of those interop TGs. I only heard a couple, not that whole list. I don't recall which ones I heard specifically.

 

[hummn]

Thank you,I'll let it run for a week and see if anything new comes up,

 

[jgorman21]

Albany County P 25

Lots of simulcasting. 159.360, 154.7400, are together with that talk group for sheriffs or law enforcement which was already referenced.

 

[DaveNF2G]

I have seen RID 9913 and 9914; in both cases they are the identifiers for consoles that are simulcasting between the trunked system and VHF or UHF channels.