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Already have the scanner/ham antennas in - now need antenna install suggestions 4 CB!

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I am looking for suggestions that DO NOT require holes drilled into my 2005 Dodge Ram...

All my amatuer gear's antennas are mounted using a Diamond K400 NMO mount on the "lip" of the bed... I could do that with an Antenex or Larsen NMO antenna, but I really don't want to spend $70 on another one of those mounts!

I have thought about using a bumper stand-off mount (not sure what they are really called - a photo of one is attached! - but the hole for the existing bolt would require me to bend the mount to make the antenna sit level. It's on a slope that would make the antenna be angled towards the cab of the truck, or if turned towards the side of the truck, would make it angled towards the opposite side of the truck.

I have also thought about a magnet mount - I am running bone-stock power but don't want an obnoxiously tall antenna (Wilson 500/1000) protruding from the roof of an already tall vehicle! How BAD would it be placing the magnet down into the bed of the truck right behind the cab? Personally, I like Wilson antennas, but unless this particular idea is going to work, forget it - not worth spending that much money!

A stake-hole mount will not work because there is no access to the underside of the stake hole - unless I try to imitate stretch armstrong and can reach that high while laying under the truck!

The bottom line is - NO HOLES can be drilled - forget about it - don't ask - don't suggest it - I won't want to hear anything of the likes! Oh yes - and forget about the whole idea of through-the-glass! I might as well bend up a coat hanger and stick it in bacl of the radio!

Guys, I'm counting on ya here!
 

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They make a pre-bent flat stock that bolts on to a fender bolt. Actually, you take the bolt out, put the bracket on, and the mount sticks our from the hood/fender ledge and allows your standard NMO mount to fit the predrilled mounting hole. I had one on each side of my Durango. A slightly different model fits the full-size Dodge trucks. http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamantm/dgantmt.pdf ...Steve/KB8FAR
 
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I've seen that setup before - I appreciate the input, but I'm not really fond of the thought of having an antenna right here within my field of view while I am driving....

Ok I have to ask - is that being overly picky? Please let me know :)
 

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Antennas.....

No, you're NOT being bad about it.....But, it ISN'T as bad as you think. I have one on each side of my 2004 Tahoe. Unless you get some AWFUL antenna, it is barely visible.....See below. One of those shown (the largest) is a standard 1/4 wave VHF-Hi band antennat...The other is a Diamond 2M/440Mhz for my ham rig. Granted, on the Chevy, you DO have to drill holes for the mount, but, NOT with the Dodge mount. You might get one & put your antenna on the passenger side....Steve/KB8FAR
 
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FireStik makes those I believe....

I need to find one with a 3/8" threaded socket, as those antennas are very common and fairly inexpensive ... I was thinking one of those helical wound antennas... Maybe a 4 foot model?
 

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I just had a thought - tell me what you think!

A Wilson 1000 trunk lip mount antenna - but since there is no trunk, do it on the lip of the rear bumper? I guess the only thing that could get in the way there would be getting to the hex screws to clamp them down...
 

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Ok...

OK. I don't think that anything I've seen will do what you want. However, I had a 1991 Pontiac Grand Prix. Put a mag mount on it for a scanner from day one. Kept it CLEAN and DRY underneath, but, after a coulpe of years, the trunk deck started to rust. BAD. So, I've been away from that option since the mid 90's....Sorry I couldn't help. Steve
 

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I just had a thought - tell me what you think!

A Wilson 1000 trunk lip mount antenna - but since there is no trunk, do it on the lip of the rear bumper? I guess the only thing that could get in the way there would be getting to the hex screws to clamp them down...
I didn't like how it looked, but, I saw a guy post a picture here of (Ithink it was a Dodge) where he used a lip mount on the top edge of the door (back half door) that worked for him.....Steve
 

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That would actually have been my install that had them on the back doors... I have since moved them - using the same mounts - to the "lip" of the bed.. Here's how it looks now... I could pick up another one of these mounts and either adapt it to 3/8" threaded, or get an NMO CB antenna, but overall the cost would be in excess of $100!
 

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you might want to check out www.walcottcb.com click on ; pickup/suv antenna mounts.
check out ss194 (A). I use the ss294a + have real good luck with it. Also I have never had a problem with them (walcottcb )((+ no I am not connected to them in any way, just a happy customer)):cool:
 

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Sorry, can't do that type of mount on my Dodge... In order to install those, you must have open access to the underside of the stake mount hole - on the Dodge, the only way to get through to the underside is to grow arms about 5 feet long, and reach up to the top of the bed while laying under the truck...

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you might want to check out www.walcottcb.com click on ; pickup/suv antenna mounts.
check out ss194 (A). I use the ss294a + have real good luck with it. Also I have never had a problem with them (walcottcb )((+ no I am not connected to them in any way, just a happy customer)):cool:
 

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the ss194 + ss194a do not require access to the underside, it is mounted from the topside!
 

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On glass in the upper pass side of the windshield. Should be good for a couple hundred feet or so, but wol't make any holes in the truck and can be removed without leaving any evidence.
 

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Glass mount.... might not have the range you want, but it's not easily seen, can be removed with a razor blade and alcohol..

I used to have a glass mount antenna on an old truck of mine and talked around town good..
 

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So let's narrow this down (for your CB antenna):

- no antennas anywhere on front of vehicle
- no antenna's on roof
- no holes
- no stake-hole mounts
- no glass-mounts
- no mag-mounts

Seems to me you've almost answered your own question; what you're doing now with your other antennas looks like your best option. Only other option is something on your rear bumper or hitch mount arrangement; keep in mind your tail gate though. Sometimes you just gotta spend the cash... :)

Good luck!
 
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That would actually have been my install that had them on the back doors... I have since moved them - using the same mounts - to the "lip" of the bed.. Here's how it looks now... I could pick up another one of these mounts and either adapt it to 3/8" threaded, or get an NMO CB antenna, but overall the cost would be in excess of $100!
Those look nice on that truck.....Nice Job.
 

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Ok guys... I broke down... dammit! LOL

I bought a Wilson 1000 mag mount and put it on the roof. I then tried something I had seen on a truck on the highway...

I removed the top 3rd brake light by removing 2 screws. Sure enough, there is a hole in there which allows easy access into the cab - in fact, the ceiling liner is right there inside the hole...

I fed the cable into the cab right by the opening at the ceiling liner and ran it in that way.

The cable actually lies over the top of the brake light, bisecting it right down the middle. It then comes back up inside behind the light from the bottom. This creates a drip-loop.

Also - the best part about this is that there is a foam weather strip around the entire brake-light fixture, which nicely molded around the coaxial cable.

Since I put the antenna at the back ledge of the cab, it has a slightly rearward cant to it - so - to make things look a little better, I adjusted the other antennas to have the same angle.... Actually looks pretty cool that way! I've noticed no reduction in performance either..

I'll try to get a picture posted tonight.
 

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Wilson 1000 mag mount
You'll be very happy with the Wilson. Best mobile antenna going in my opinion. I run one with a Galaxy 95T2 and a Magna Force 600 with no problems. can you say "reach out and touch someone" . :D
 

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I used to run one with a Voyage VR-9000 and Palomar Skipper 450 and before that a Magnum 357 (yes, 357 - the one with the 150 watt amp) on my Chrysler Sebring ... They do indeed work VERY well.. Just wanted to try and stick with the NMO type antennas since everything else on my truck is that type. Overall the Wilson ended up being cheaper than buying an 11 meter NMO style antenna and another Diamond K400 mount.. In fact, the antenna w/ mag mount cost the same as the Diamond K400!
 
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