American Electric Power P25 WACN 92715

mtindor

OH/WV DB Admin
Database Admin
Joined
Dec 5, 2006
Messages
7,485
Location
Carroll Co OH / EN90LN
I dont know why I thought it was Northridge Ohio. I guess I assumed since I passed Northridge Schools on Northridge Rd the town was called Northridge.
There could be a Northridge Ohio -- ya know, one of those unincorporated towns that are all over ohio. I just noticed that when I went to Google Maps to view it, the site was riight off of Northridge Rd. So maybe both a road and a town.

M
 

phask

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Dec 19, 2002
Messages
3,117
Location
KZZV - SE Ohio
I have heard a few voice comms, "testing" - TESt TEST etc. also some open carriers.
3 TG's as well
2701
2704
2705



It has to be Zanesville, just using a back of scanner extendable antenna at 6" and getting full scale on the meter.
 

mtindor

OH/WV DB Admin
Database Admin
Joined
Dec 5, 2006
Messages
7,485
Location
Carroll Co OH / EN90LN
I have heard a few voice comms, "testing" - TESt TEST etc. also some open carriers.
3 TG's as well
2701
2704
2705



It has to be Zanesville, just using a back of scanner extendable antenna at 6" and getting full scale on the meter.
Ok thanks. Yes, 2701 had been quite active hear at certain times during the day. Thought that one time I heard them say they were testing Cambridge site. So _maybe_ there is a Cambridge site up. But righ tbefore it they said they were testing another site and then corrected themselves, and I thought they corrected by saying Cambridge. Of course I heard that off of New Philadelphia site over here. They apparently have some radios near various sites today.

Here in my neck of the woods I'm not seeing the slew of other talkgroups that you, Rakkfo, N8JSW, and Firemantom are seeing. But the sites I'm monitoring are in podunkville.


Mike
 

RakkFO

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Jan 20, 2013
Messages
211
Location
Central ohio
My hypothesis is this:
33.33 - Etna - 100% sure
35.35 - Newark
40.40 - West Jefferson (could be concord)
42.42 - Zanesville
43.43 - Columbus
46.46 - Delaware (South)(Powell)
47.47 - Mt Sterling
53.53 - UNID
66.66 - Delaware (North)(LEONARDSBURG)

I will work through some more data tonight and post any updates, neighbors, additional frequency's and TG's.
 

mtindor

OH/WV DB Admin
Database Admin
Joined
Dec 5, 2006
Messages
7,485
Location
Carroll Co OH / EN90LN
My hypothesis is this:
33.33 - Etna - 100% sure
35.35 - Newark
40.40 - West Jefferson (could be concord)
42.42 - Zanesville
43.43 - Columbus
46.46 - Delaware (South)(Powell)
47.47 - Mt Sterling
53.53 - UNID
66.66 - Delaware (North)(LEONARDSBURG)

I will work through some more data tonight and post any updates, neighbors, additional frequency's and TG's.
40.40 : There is no West Jefferson or Concord site. 40.40 is a neighbor of Zanesville and the choices (ruling out things extremely far away from Zanesville) are Cambridge and Bloomfield, either of which would make a lot of sense.

47.47 : I'm going to reach out to Tom-PYR since Mt Sterling is in his home county. If 47.47 is Mt Sterling, then the RFSS-Site changed (which is entirely possible).

Mike
 

RakkFO

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Jan 20, 2013
Messages
211
Location
Central ohio
40.40 : There is no West Jefferson or Concord site. 40.40 is a neighbor of Zanesville and the choices (ruling out things extremely far away from Zanesville) are Cambridge and Bloomfield, either of which would make a lot of sense.

47.47 : I'm going to reach out to Tom-PYR since Mt Sterling is in his home county. If 47.47 is Mt Sterling, then the RFSS-Site changed (which is entirely possible).

Mike
I agree and disagree. I agree that it is not West Jeff but there is a Concord (WPCQ245) and after further review I believe that is 40.40 due to neighbors and topographical analysis. I could only copy 40.40 when I was at the Johnstown (I was incorrectly calling it Northridge) site which has LOS to Concord.
 

mtindor

OH/WV DB Admin
Database Admin
Joined
Dec 5, 2006
Messages
7,485
Location
Carroll Co OH / EN90LN
I agree and disagree. I agree that it is not West Jeff but there is a Concord (WPCQ245) and after further review I believe that is 40.40 due to neighbors.
Concord (New Concord) is the FCC-designated "Bloomfield" site on WPCQ245. So we are in agreement, just using different names for the same place.

Mike
 

RakkFO

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Jan 20, 2013
Messages
211
Location
Central ohio
I have heard a few voice comms, "testing" - TESt TEST etc. also some open carriers.
3 TG's as well
2701
2704
2705



It has to be Zanesville, just using a back of scanner extendable antenna at 6" and getting full scale on the meter.
Can you check on 855.7625 I suspect it is site 40.40?
 

RakkFO

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Jan 20, 2013
Messages
211
Location
Central ohio
Here is my DSDPlus.P25data file

Network: 92715.1F6

Bandplan #0: Base=851. Offset=-45 Spacing=12.5 BW=12.5
Bandplan #8: Base=851. Offset=-45 Spacing=12.5 BW=12.5 Slots=2


Site: 33.33 NAC=021

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-35.35
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-43.43
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-46.46
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-47.47
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-66.66

Channel 0-331: 855.1375 CC
Channel 0-355: 855.4375 DATA


Site: 35.35 NAC=023

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-33.33
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-42.42
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-43.43
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-46.46

Channel 0-241: 854.0125 CC
Channel 0-321: 855.0125 DATA


Site: 40.40 NAC=028

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-42.42

Channel 0-381: 855.7625 CC


Site: 42.42 NAC=02A

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-35.35
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-40.40

Channel 0-245: 854.0625 CC


Site: 43.43 NAC=02B

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-33.33
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-35.35
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-46.46
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-47.47
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-66.66

Channel 0-275: 854.4375 CC
Channel 0-349: 855.3625 SCC
Channel 0-373: 855.6625 SCC
Channel 0-425: 856.3125 DATA
Channel 8-850: 856.3125-1 VOICE
Channel 8-851: 856.3125-2 VOICE


Site: 46.46 NAC=02E

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-33.33
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-35.35
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-43.43

Channel 0-297: 854.7125 CC


Site: 47.47 NAC=02F

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-33.33
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-43.43
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-53.53
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-66.66

Channel 0-281: 854.5125 CC
Channel 0-325: 855.0625 SCC
Channel 8-650: 855.0625-1 VOICE
Channel 0-415: 856.1875 SCC
Channel 8-830: 856.1875-1 VOICE


Site: 53.53

Channel 0-269: 854.3625 CC


Site: 66.66 NAC=042

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-33.33
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-43.43
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-47.47
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-53.53

Channel 0-353: 855.4125 CC
 

mtindor

OH/WV DB Admin
Database Admin
Joined
Dec 5, 2006
Messages
7,485
Location
Carroll Co OH / EN90LN
Here is my DSDPlus.P25data file

Network: 92715.1F6

Bandplan #0: Base=851. Offset=-45 Spacing=12.5 BW=12.5
Bandplan #8: Base=851. Offset=-45 Spacing=12.5 BW=12.5 Slots=2


Site: 33.33 NAC=021

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-35.35
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-43.43
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-46.46
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-47.47
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-66.66

Channel 0-331: 855.1375 CC
Channel 0-355: 855.4375 DATA


Site: 35.35 NAC=023

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-33.33
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-42.42
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-43.43
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-46.46

Channel 0-241: 854.0125 CC
Channel 0-321: 855.0125 DATA


Site: 40.40 NAC=028

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-42.42

Channel 0-381: 855.7625 CC


Site: 42.42 NAC=02A

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-35.35
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-40.40

Channel 0-245: 854.0625 CC


Site: 43.43 NAC=02B

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-33.33
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-35.35
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-46.46
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-47.47
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-66.66

Channel 0-275: 854.4375 CC
Channel 0-349: 855.3625 SCC
Channel 0-373: 855.6625 SCC
Channel 0-425: 856.3125 DATA
Channel 8-850: 856.3125-1 VOICE
Channel 8-851: 856.3125-2 VOICE


Site: 46.46 NAC=02E

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-33.33
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-35.35
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-43.43

Channel 0-297: 854.7125 CC


Site: 47.47 NAC=02F

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-33.33
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-43.43
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-53.53
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-66.66

Channel 0-281: 854.5125 CC
Channel 0-325: 855.0625 SCC
Channel 8-650: 855.0625-1 VOICE
Channel 0-415: 856.1875 SCC
Channel 8-830: 856.1875-1 VOICE


Site: 53.53

Channel 0-269: 854.3625 CC


Site: 66.66 NAC=042

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-33.33
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-43.43
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-47.47
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-53.53

Channel 0-353: 855.4125 CC
Thanks for sharing. I've added the data/voice channel for Etna and 35.35 Newark site thus far. Great work!

m
 

RakkFO

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Jan 20, 2013
Messages
211
Location
Central ohio
I made a Google Earth file to map things out if anyone thinks it may be of use. Each site folder has a map to all the neighbors. The LP's are the sites I monitored from.
Thanks for sharing. I've added the data/voice channel for Etna and 35.35 Newark site thus far. Great work!

m
I will be in Columbus tomorrow, I may drive to the Delaware site near Powell to confirm that. Maybe next week I can make my way to Newark. I also made a Google Earth .kmz for anyone to use.
 

Attachments

mtindor

OH/WV DB Admin
Database Admin
Joined
Dec 5, 2006
Messages
7,485
Location
Carroll Co OH / EN90LN
I made a Google Earth file to map things out if anyone thinks it may be of use. Each site folder has a map to all the neighbors. The LP's are the sites I monitored from.


I will be in Columbus tomorrow, I may drive to the Delaware site near Powell to confirm that. Maybe next week I can make my way to Newark. I also made a Google Earth .kmz for anyone to use.
Notice that DSDPlus picked up some data/voice channels for some sites -- which makes those sites even easier to identify. You obviously nailed Etna, Newark, Columbus -- and it seems Mt Sterling as well. I'm not going to change Mt Sterling until I hear back from Tom though, although I'm confident in your findings and that 47.47 is Mt Sterling.

Heck ya -- I'm a fan of Googl Earth (but don't know how to add things in there myself). Thanks for the file ready for import.

Mike
 

mtindor

OH/WV DB Admin
Database Admin
Joined
Dec 5, 2006
Messages
7,485
Location
Carroll Co OH / EN90LN
My hypothesis is this:

66.66 - Delaware (North)(LEONARDSBURG)
Don't be surprised if 66.66 is actually Chillicothe (Ross).

53.53 is Hillsboro (Highland)

66.66 and 47.47 (Mt Sterling) list 53.53 as a neighbor

33.33 Etna (Licking), 43.43 Columbus (Franklin) and 47.47 (Mt Sterling) list 66.66 as a neighbor

And I wouldn't imagine any Delaware site having Hillsboro as a neighbor with Mt Sterling active and in between.

Even though Chillicothe may not be as close as one might like to be a neighbor, when no other more local sites are online to the south of Columbus / Etna then certainly Chillicothe could be a neighbor. I'd be willing to wager that 66.66 is Chillicothe (Ross)

Mike
 

RakkFO

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Jan 20, 2013
Messages
211
Location
Central ohio
Don't be surprised if 66.66 is actually Chillicothe (Ross).

53.53 is Hillsboro (Highland)

66.66 and 47.47 (Mt Sterling) list 53.53 as a neighbor

33.33 Etna (Licking), 43.43 Columbus (Franklin) and 47.47 (Mt Sterling) list 66.66 as a neighbor

And I wouldn't imagine any Delaware site having Hillsboro as a neighbor with Mt Sterling active and in between.

Even though Chillicothe may not be as close as one might like to be a neighbor, when no other more local sites are online to the south of Columbus / Etna then certainly Chillicothe could be a neighbor. I'd be willing to wager that 66.66 is Chillicothe (Ross)

Mike
I limited my search at first to 30 miles and as things started to fall in place I realized that whom ever is putting this system together is doing a really good job picking sites. With that said said I would not be surprised at all. Additionally In my log I only heard 66.66 from 161 and Beech Rd and it was weak signal. If it were Delaware Co site I assume that I would have heard it in Johnstown. I also have it marked as suspect since it is a Mt Sterling, I guess I limited the range to much. Good catch.
 

RakkFO

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Jan 20, 2013
Messages
211
Location
Central ohio
Likely going to be Leonardsburg (Delaware). Only two sites licensed to its 854.7125 CC -- Leonardsburg (Delaware) and Philo (Muskingum).

Mike
I also agree I must have transposed those when I copied it to RR. My notes also show Leonardsburg and Philo for 854.7125. When I did terrain analysis from my listening posts to Philo I did not have line of site.
 

mtindor

OH/WV DB Admin
Database Admin
Joined
Dec 5, 2006
Messages
7,485
Location
Carroll Co OH / EN90LN
Here is my DSDPlus.P25data file

Site: 47.47 NAC=02F

Neighbor: 92715.1F6-33.33
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-43.43
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-53.53
Neighbor: 92715.1F6-66.66

Channel 0-281: 854.5125 CC
Channel 0-325: 855.0625 SCC
Channel 8-650: 855.0625-1 VOICE
Channel 0-415: 856.1875 SCC
Channel 8-830: 856.1875-1 VOICE
There is no doubt (at least in my mind) that Site 47.47 is Mt Sterling.

1. The Mt Sterling license is the only license that contains more than one of the three frequencies (and in fact, it has all three freqs licensed)
2. The neighbor list would make perfect sense if this were Mt Sterling (with etna, columbus, hillsboro, chillicothe as neighbors)

but I haven't added it to the DB yet because the DB already contains 1F6-8.8 as Mt Sterling, which happens to be in the home county of the grand wizard db admin WA8PYR and I don't want to remove it / modify it. Once he verifies I'm sure It'll get added.

Thanks for all of the hard work, Rakkfo!

Mike
 
Top