Antenna

[millie616]

Hi am an 81yr old noob bought a tecsun s2000 and a moonraker-hfmkii deluxe 25 mitre longwire I am worrying about upsetting my neighbour .so
I have have run it along my 6ft fence in a
L shape but have 8ft left over and this comes back on its self before it joins the balun . I have read that it should not come back on its self cut or not cut . Thanking you all in advance
I , sorry a out the text wall Gus

 

[Dirk_SDR]

If you have no other choice you could shorten the antenna by 8ft.
The antenna is untuned and should also work with 22,6 meters.

 

[mmckenna]

If this is just receiving, it's not critical. Many of us used to just run a random length of wire and call it good. You can zig-zag it to use up the wire, or loop it down and along the bottom of the fence. Or, it's your antenna, just cut the wire. Yeah, it's going to throw the tuning off a bit, but that's not goin to be super critical for just listening to shortwave.

 

[millie616]

Thanks for the quick response will cut it today gus

 

[G7RUX]

Don’t cut it. Take it up and down the fence a little near the end to take up the spare…

 

[millie616]

Hi am still agonising about it if I can will post a pic of my setup and the 8ft problem if I am allowed to post ia picture.
I would like to know is what does happens if that 8ft runs in a mini L shape will send pic asp . I have another question I would like to know but not sure if this is the proper section to post . I want to buy a world map and find out where I have reached , when the cq cq gives his call sign do the call sign letters indicate what country he is sending from .sorry about my unintresting post.thanks for your help in advance gus

L

 

[mmckenna]

Hi am still agonising about it if I can will post a pic of my setup and the 8ft problem if I am allowed to post ia picture.
I would like to know is what does happens if that 8ft runs in a mini L shape will send pic asp .

Try it and find out. It's not going to hurt anything.

I have another question I would like to know but not sure if this is the proper section to post . I want to buy a world map and find out where I have reached , when the cq cq gives his call sign do the call sign letters indicate what country he is sending from .sorry about my unintresting post.thanks for your help in advance gus

L

Yes, the call sign for the amateur radio station will tell you which country they are licensed by.
It will not tell you if they are operating somewhere else. Some hams will sometimes go to remote locations to play radio, but they'll usually make it clear where they are working from.

In larger countries, like the USA, the country is subdivided into call sign groups. Again, the call sign will tell you that they are a US licensed amateur, and the number will tell you which region they were licensed from, but sometimes people move, or operate while on vacation.

 

[millie616]

Hi here is pic of my L shape longwire. And it coming beckon its self did not want to cut it incase someone comes up with another solution. I have googled which countries and call signs are allocated but so far have been unsuccessful I am not lazy would like a website if you would be kind enough.

 

[G7RUX]

Basically, any shape other than a straight level line will result in the antenna pattern being lumpy. However, this sort of long wire for receiving is not particularly critical and you probably don’t want to aim for a lovely dipole pattern anyway so weaving it around won’t be a major issue. Personally I would probably take the end down the fence and back along a bit near the ground to take up the excess length.

That said, cutting it won’t be a massive problem but it is then cut; coil the end up if you must but I wouldn’t cut it.

 

[jwt873]

I have googled which countries and call signs are allocated but so far have been unsuccessful I am not lazy would like a website if you would be kind enough.

qrz.com is probably the best place to look up calls.. You have to sign up to get the full info on a call, but even if you don't, you'll at least get the country. Here ---> Callsign Database - QRZ.com

 

[millie616]

Basically, any shape other than a straight level line will result in the antenna pattern being lumpy. However, this sort of long wire for receiving is not particularly critical and you probably don’t want to aim for a lovely dipole pattern anyway so weaving it around won’t be a major issue. Personally I would probably take the end down the fence and back along a bit near the ground to take up the excess length.

That said, cutting it won’t be a massive problem but it is then cut; coil the end up if you must but I wouldn’t cut it.

Thank you for your time and advice gus

 

[millie616]

Thanks for the website

 

[WA8ZTZ]

Here ya go... map with call signs...

Map of the World (Robinson)

This ARRL map of the world features the popularized classroom-style projection. Colorful detailing includes TU zones and regions, CQ zones, DXCC entity prefixes, US and Canadian call sign areas, worldwide time zones. Full-color laminated map. (26 x 34.5 inches). Robinson Projection. ©...

home.arrl.org

edit... Just noticed that you are in the UK. It may be easier for you to get a map from the RSGB.

Radio Society of Great Britain - Main site : Radio Society of Great Britain – Main Site

Welcome to the main site of the RSGB - amateur radio information, services and resources

rsgb.org

 

[millie616]

Here ya go... map with call signs...

Map of the World (Robinson)

This ARRL map of the world features the popularized classroom-style projection. Colorful detailing includes TU zones and regions, CQ zones, DXCC entity prefixes, US and Canadian call sign areas, worldwide time zones. Full-color laminated map. (26 x 34.5 inches). Robinson Projection. ©...

home.arrl.org

edit... Just noticed that you are in the UK. It may be easier for you to get a map from the

 

[millie616]

Lots of choices so with my
L shape lumpy and 6ft off the ground moonraker 25 mtr longwire , which maps would you recommend the Robinson Projection. I am 4 miles from Eastbourne ,the end of antenna points east . Thanks you again for the help BN265AZ

 

[G7RUX]

Hi am still agonising about it if I can will post a pic of my setup and the 8ft problem if I am allowed to post ia picture.
I would like to know is what does happens if that 8ft runs in a mini L shape will send pic asp . I have another question I would like to know but not sure if this is the proper section to post . I want to buy a world map and find out where I have reached , when the cq cq gives his call sign do the call sign letters indicate what country he is sending from .sorry about my unintresting post.thanks for your help in advance gus

L

The allocation of callsign prefixes is an interesting one. Overall, the ITU allocate callsign ranges and a list of these is shown at appendix 42 of the Radio Regulations Table of International Call Sign Series (Appendix 42 to the RR)

Amateur radio callsigns will all fall within this structure.

Some big or composite countries like the USA will have regional callsigns allocations within their overall ranges but these have often become rather mixed up as people may keep their call when moving to other areas, even if the original policies were for new calls to be issued. Hence, a callsign that looks like it should be in one part of the US might end up being used by a station in another part.
Interestingly, the UK amateur callsigns use secondary locators with the same general callsign. For example, if I operate from Wales I will use GW7RUX as my call but when at home I would not use the W; the rest of my callsign stays the same. OfCom is consulting on changes to amateur licensing including dropping the requirement for these secondary locators, although there is some disquiet about this possible move.