AOR SDU-5600 - Any users out there?

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Hello,

I have just purchased a used AOR AR8600 receiver from AES which is enroute to me at this time. I'm considering socking away the $$$ and taking the plunge with AOR's SDU-5600 Spectrum Display Unit, but before I plunk down that kind of $$$, are there any users that can share their thoughts with me on its performance. Other than advertising there appears to be very little in the way of objective reviews available. I've corresponded with one gentleman who is very happy with his SDU-5600 as it works in conjunction with the 8600 receiver. Any other input or thoughts, no matter what receiver you use it with or how you use it, would be most welcome.

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Scott, did you recieve your SDU yet?

Has it lived up to what you hoped it would be?

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Hi Lindsay,

After doing some significant research and reading the 5600's .PDF manual about ten times, and corresponding with a gentleman in Australia with the exact same setup that I'll have, I've decided to take the plunge. I just ordered one today from AES and should have it Monday or Tuesday of next week. Once I get it hooked up and have time to use it I'll provide a full report.

If all goes as advertised, I'm thinking that this will be a significant enhancement to one of my most enjoyable aspects of the hobby, which is DXing skip and tropo signals. Being able to see a chunk of spectrum at once and the ability to very quickly tune the radio to a present signal should be dandy. We shall see... :D
 

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Sounds great.

I think I'd really want one for HF monitoring...... that really used to be my passion, and with my local agency (San Antonio) going EDACS ESK, much of what I used to monitor is no longer monitorable.


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Actually I'll probably do some HF monitoring with it also. I primarily use an Icom IC-R75 for HF'ing. The 8600 is apparently somewhat prone to overload on HF if it has too much antenna on it. I haven't tried it there yet as I'm still learning its operation.

In order for this to work the AR8600 has to have a modification made to its IF output for all mode. By default it's for WFM only. It's a matter of moving a resister from one point to another to enable it. My soldering skills are akin to someone using a blowtorch on a wad of paper (and that's on a good day). I have a technician locally with the right tools who will do the mod for me. AOR will also do it "free of charge" if you send them the radio and include $20.00 for their return shipping. A nice alternative for those of us that are not adept with the iron.

Once that's accomplished the SDU5600 should work dandy with the 8600 on HF. I also use a program called Skysweeper that has some DSP capability, so I can run the 8600's audio through the soundcard on my main computer which will work to its advantage under certain circumstances. Hopefully all of this technology will make for a very interesting and effective monitoring station that will very likely significantly change the way I conduct a lot of my listening.
 

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SDU5600 - Nice Piece of Gear...Just not for me!

As mentioned above I did purchase the AOR SDU5600 Spectrum Display Unit. My primary intent with it was to use it for finding signals during tropo and skip band openings.

The SDU5600 is a wonderful piece of gear. It is extremely well built with a very good manual that I read and re-read many times. Despite its sophistication it is a very easy device to operate. It is very fast and does a superb job of finding new signals, and an excellent job of tuning certain radios, such as my AR8600 (or an AR5000, IC-R8500) to the found signal by moving a marker to that signal and pressing a button. If you plan to use it for finding unknown local signals it is an expensive but likely welcome addition to your scan shack.

Perhaps it was my ignorance going in that made me believe I'd be able to do weak signal work with this device. The SDU5600, and any spectrum analyzer for that matter, shows the "noise floor", I guess akin to a radio's squelch being open. If the SDU5600 shows too much of the noise floor it's possible to "attenuate" the display so the noise floor drops below the visible screen. What happens when this is done pretty much eliminates the chance of seeing weak signals with this device. These signals are not discernable through the noise floor, because they are just above it, and are as a result virtually invisible. Attenuating the SDU5600 makes the noise floor disappear altogether. Medium to strong level signals remain visible, but any chance of seeing the weak ones goes bye-bye with this attenuation. It was suggested to me that a shortwave preamp be used inline from the 10.7 MHz IF output of the radio to the input on the SDU. I would imagine it would have to be one of very good quality, otherwise the noise floor would simply be amplified as well and the problem would remain. AOR only allows adjustments/attenuation to the SDU5600 in 10db increments. If that could be made adjustable down to 1db maybe (not sure if that would even be possible) it might make a considerable difference.

I worked with the SDU5600 for many nights, trying numerous different combinations of attenuation both with it and with my receiver, different antennas, and combinations of all three. Again, medium to strong signals were easy to snag, and the 5600 is marvelous in that aspect...superb actually. As far as I was concerned I had a near-total grasp of its operation but could not make it work for me the way I wanted it to. It was with mixed emotions that I returned it for a refund, but I concluded that for the price I paid for it I did not want something that I was not satisfied with sitting in the radio room. AES did whack me for a restocking fee of course, no surprise there, but the hit I took was a lot less expensive one than if it sat in the shack and collected dust.

This is by no means a knock on AOR. This is a wonderful device that will do an astounding job of finding signals in any chunk of the radio spectrum. It's great for discovering sources of interference. It has a wide variety of possibilities. Sadly, at least for me, weak signal work was not one of them.

Lindsay, I did try it briefly on HF also, but encountered the same problem for the most part as I did with weak signals in the VHF/UHF spectrum.

I hope that provides a basic description of what this device can, and apparently can't, do.
 

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Hmm... interesting update... I may still pick one up oneday if Momma, and the baby approve.

Until then, I guess I just read this thread.. :D
 
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