Applying for FCC VHF simplex part 90 frequency

[Jakeeeeeeee737372]

Hi there,

I'm interested in getting a Part 90 radio license for a VHF radio frequency for my home radios. I want to start with simplex communication and then eventually get a Quantar repeater that my friends and I can use. I'm a little confused about the application process for a FCC license. What's the best way to apply? And what section/pool should I apply under?

Thanks for your help!

 

[RaleighGuy]

Hi there,

I'm interested in getting a Part 90 radio license for a VHF radio frequency for my home radios.

I would make sure you do your research first, my understanding of Part 90 eligible radios does not include private home usage, but rather businesses and public safety, and usually requires usage of a frequency coordinator to ensure the frequency being requested wouldn't interfere with other businesses or industrial radios. You may also rethink the simplex first, repeater later idea, as you will need to pay again for the modification and frequency coordination, which could get expensive.

Private Land Mobile Radio Services

About Rule Part 47 C.F.R, Part 90

www.fcc.gov

 

[Jakeeeeeeee737372]

I would make sure you do your research first, my understanding of Part 90 eligible radios does not include private home usage, but rather businesses and public safety.

Private Land Mobile Radio Services

About Rule Part 47 C.F.R, Part 90

www.fcc.gov

hm, i guess i will have to, its gonna be used more for testing new radios too, but ill have to do my research thanks

 

[RaleighGuy]

hm, i guess i will have to, its gonna be used more for testing new radios too, but ill have to do my research thanks

And the FCC would look at whether it is testing radios as a business or as an individual before they would approve a grant. Just my reading of the regulations.

 

[Jakeeeeeeee737372]

And the FCC would look at whether it is testing radios as a business or as an individual before they would approve a grant. Just my reading of the regulations.

well ive seen a guy named X311 Spartan and it seems like he has his own radio system like channels "Red 1, Red 2" im not sure if maybe he has a business but ill have to do some more reading to see what i have to do

 

[Citywide173]

I also believe that you would not be granted a license without a business under the current rules, but this might help you:

Business Radio License- How to Apply and What You Need to Know

Getting the right business radio for your company is the first step, but you'll also need a FCC business radio license. Vist Midland Radio for more information.

midlandusa.com

 

[KevinC]

well ive seen a guy named X311 Spartan and it seems like he has his own radio system like channels "Red 1, Red 2" im not sure if maybe he has a business but ill have to do some more reading to see what i have to do

Where have you seen this guy?

 

[Jakeeeeeeee737372]

Where have you seen this guy?

here he can be seen sending TMS (text messaging) and he uses channels Red 2 and ive seen in another video he had green 1 and green 2 and blue 1 and blue 2?

 

[Jakeeeeeeee737372]

I also believe that you would not be granted a license without a business under the current rules, but this might help you:

Business Radio License- How to Apply and What You Need to Know

Getting the right business radio for your company is the first step, but you'll also need a FCC business radio license. Vist Midland Radio for more information.

midlandusa.com

i appreciate this, ill have to file with the FCC sometime and see if i get denied

 

[RaleighGuy]

well ive seen a guy named X311 Spartan and it seems like he has his own radio system like channels "Red 1, Red 2"

What he doesn't say in the video or his web site is what frequencies he is using. Those radios can also be used on ham frequencies, or unlicensed.

 

[nd5y]

he uses channels Red 2 and ive seen in another video he had green 1 and green 2 and blue 1 and blue 2?

Those names are totally meaningless. You can name any frequency anything you want. The only limit is the number of characters the radio and programming software allows. He could be using MURS, FRS, GMRS, amateur, or random frequencies pulled out of his @$$.

 

[Jakeeeeeeee737372]

Those names are totally meaningless. You can name any frequency anything you want. The only limit is the number of characters the radio and programming software allows. He could be using MURS, FRS, GMRS, amateur, or random frequencies pulled out of his @$$.

theres another video of him transmitting on 800mhz too i believe
Edit: it was another youtuber that did the 800 transmit

 

[Jakeeeeeeee737372]

What he doesn't say in the video or his web site is what frequencies he is using. Those radios can also be used on ham frequencies, or unlicensed.

very very true. if he was caught doing digital on MURS isnt that a big ass fine?

 

[nd5y]

very very true. if he was caught doing digital on MURS isnt that a big ass fine?

It could be if he was causing interference to legitimate users and they filed a complaint and the FCC cared enough to do something about it. There is another thread about somebody recently getting busted for interfering with GMRS.

 

[RaleighGuy]

very very true. if he was caught doing digital on MURS isnt that a big ass fine?

There are many people doing things they are supposed to on radios, especially on the CCR radios, but everyone thinks they won't ever get caught. Low power in rural areas, you may not get caught or reported, higher power in a city, it's a higher possibility, You never know.

 

[Jakeeeeeeee737372]

There are many people doing things they are supposed to on radios, especially on the CCR radios, but everyone thinks they won't ever get caught. Low power in rural areas, you may not get caught or reported, higher power in a city, it's a higher possibility, You never know.

thats why i want my own private freq to be on my own and not deal with people that mess with radios. i live out in the rural part of a state i still would rather pay the FCC then get fined.

 

[nd5y]

It's cheaper to get a GMRS license or amateur radio license (amateur license requires you to pass a written test). In addition to the FCC license fee for a PMLR license (that you probably aren't eligible for anyway) you will have to pay a frequency coordinator probably several hundred dollars. You won't get your own private frequency. They are all shared. If you are lucky there might not be any other users within 70 miles. You probably won't be able to use "your" frequency outside of a radius around your location.

 

[RaleighGuy]

thats why i want my own private freq to be on my own and not deal with people that mess with radios. i live out in the rural part of a state i still would rather pay the FCC then get fined.

OK I'm done, you are convinced you will get this done, and who am I to convince you otherwise. I will just mention, there is no such thing as a private frequency, especially when there are people who mess with radios, anyone can program in your frequency and do as they wish. Asdr or the search feature on a modern scanner will give them all the information they need to access your frequencies or repeater.

From all you have said, there is no basis for the FCC to grant your request and it will be very costly to set up (or try to set up, in the event they deny you). Good luck to you and I hope you get what you are looking for.

 

[Jakeeeeeeee737372]

It could be if he was causing interference to legitimate users and they filed a complaint and the FCC cared enough to do something about it. There is another thread about somebody recently getting busted for interfering with GMRS.

OK I'm done, you are convinced you will get this done, and who am I to convince you otherwise. I will just mention, there is no such thing as a private frequency, especially when there are people who mess with radios, anyone can program in your frequency and do as they wish.

From all you have said, there is no basis for the FCC to grant your request and it will be very costly to set up (or try to set up, in the event they deny you). Good luck to you and I hope you get what you are looking for.

do you have a recommendation for what to use to talk Radio to Radio?

 

[RaleighGuy]

do you have a recommendation for what to use to talk Radio to Radio?

GMRS or MURS