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APX NEXT - when you run out of numbers

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wa8pyr

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I guess Mother M was afraid to call it the APX Infinity since it has such a new form. https://www.motorolasolutions.com/content/dam/msi/Products/apx-next1/apx-next-spec-sheet.pdf

Actually, since the number in the model name represents the list price, they probably didn't want to scare off potential buyers calling it the APX10000.

(The number in the model name doesn't really represent the list price, but it's amazing how the list price has for many years been really, really close to that number)

Does look like a nifty gadget, though I have to wonder how well that dinky antenna will work on VHF and UHF. . . . . "new antenna technology" notwithstanding.
 

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I have to wonder how well that dinky antenna will work on VHF and UHF. . . . . "new antenna technology" notwithstanding.
That antenna is the 700MHz model, the “all band” antenna is only available in a whip.
 

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I just sat through a webinar Moto hosted about the APX Next line. The entire presentation was aimed at law enforcement. Interesting features from ViQi to GPS location. Asked what, if anything, in the new line was designed for fire/EMS use, the reply was they are looking in to what can be brought to those services. The APX Next line would last about 3 minutes once issued to a firefighter.....
 

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The APX Next line would last about 3 minutes once issued to a firefighter.....
No doubt about that.. I texted one of the Moto executives, I also brought up the firefighter usage and how durable they would be, he mentioned they'd mainly be used for Chiefs/Supervisors and weren't intended for fireground use. I'm really interested to see what they come up with if it ever goes that far.

I'm also not sure about the microphone being at such an odd angle, I guess it works well or else they would've moved it.
 

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Oh good, another more expensive APX line that we can mop the floor with with Harris. I'm so glad we don't sell 10,000 dollar APX's at 3% commission while corperate gets the gravy. It isn't like it used to be..
 

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Motorola Solutions (NYSE: MSI) today announced the launch of APX NEXT™, its next-generation mission-critical Project 25 (P25) public safety radio with LTE for enhanced communications and data-centric application services. The company also announced ViQi™, a public safety virtual assistant that provides vital information to first responders in the field and allows users to operate APX NEXT via voice control.

APX NEXT is the newest mission-critical P25 radio offering in Motorola Solutions’ purpose-built APX portfolio. It’s FirstNet Ready™ and comes with embedded LTE connectivity enabled by the FirstNet communications platform to quickly deliver voice and data to first responders in the field. APX NEXT is Motorola Solutions’ first APX radio to feature a touchscreen with a user interface designed specifically for public safety. The touchscreen can be used in the rain and when wearing gloves. It offers one-touch access to radio controls, large touch targets and an optimized user interface for fast navigation. ViQi voice control enables users to quickly manage radio controls through simple and intuitive voice commands.

 

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Many have missed the part where it says about cloud service programming and firmware. From what I've read it appears no cps locally. I may be wrong but what it appears to me to be.

You login, and with the tools on cloud program through the methods they have come up with and it appears it's a yearly fee for the services with limited trial period.

If this is so thank the many people using things on ebay doing apx upgrades illegally.

I wondered when they were going to phone home or control the cps and leaks specially since the home brew hacks leaked out.

Now the bigger question, will later regular apx cps, firmware go to same cloud platform and new firmware be required for latest features or flash upgrades from them leaving anyone who's got illegal copies of software to be stuck in times.

They said it'll be a foreseeable platform both apx next and apx. So I'm thinking they have a cloud platform cps in works for the regular apx line.

Though they said this about the Astro 25 line, and sabre line being foreseeable supported I don't believe it'll last past 10 years with newer technology and product demands from field.
 

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Many have missed the part where it says about cloud service programming and firmware. From what I've read it appears no cps locally. I may be wrong but what it appears to me to be.

You login, and with the tools on cloud program through the methods they have come up with and it appears it's a yearly fee for the services with limited trial period.

If this is so thank the many people using things on ebay doing apx upgrades illegally.

I wondered when they were going to phone home or control the cps and leaks specially since the home brew hacks leaked out.

Now the bigger question, will later regular apx cps, firmware go to same cloud platform and new firmware be required for latest features or flash upgrades from them leaving anyone who's got illegal copies of software to be stuck in times.

They said it'll be a foreseeable platform both apx next and apx. So I'm thinking they have a cloud platform cps in works for the regular apx line.

Though they said this about the Astro 25 line, and sabre line being foreseeable supported I don't believe it'll last past 10 years with newer technology and product demands from field.
It's the SaaS model that's all the rage. Personally I hate it. I want to pay for something once and then own it forever, but companies that are moving their software in this direction see the huge corporate benefit to having a steady cashflow in perpetuity.
 

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It's the SaaS model that's all the rage. Personally I hate it. I want to pay for something once and then own it forever, but companies that are moving their software in this direction see the huge corporate benefit to having a steady cashflow in perpetuity.
Yep.

I had figured the cloud based services when many were crying illegal software went cloud based and how they can't get hands on it for their fleabay scams.

Motorola seen it as killing 2 birds with one stone. Revolving income, and stopping the shenanigans.

Personally I prefer knobs, basic menus. No fancy lcd.

It's more geared toward law enforcement

It's ideal for system admins, technicians if the app services allows master radios to see and control a system from it.

Evidence techs, commanders at the war table to use.

Common field user I see a lot of repairs on that lcd touch.

Public works forget it. Won't last a month. Fire good luck also unless it's a command officers or chief.
 

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It's the SaaS model that's all the rage. Personally I hate it. I want to pay for something once and then own it forever, but companies that are moving their software in this direction see the huge corporate benefit to having a steady cashflow in perpetuity.
When we went to RM on our 8000s, they tried hard to sell us a hosted version. I said no way, give me the self contained version. We have the server on a closed network using a separate SSID/VLAN that is pushed to our field locations. I don't want my radios needing internet connectivity.
 

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When we went to RM on our 8000s, they tried hard to sell us a hosted version. I said no way, give me the self contained version. We have the server on a closed network using a separate SSID/VLAN that is pushed to our field locations. I don't want my radios needing internet connectivity.

Needing internet connectivity would be a nightmare from the perspective of emergency operations; the vaunted FirstNet notwithstanding (which has it's share of areas with questionable coverage and low bandwidth), what if you're out in the sticks with no internet and no cell coverage, and you need to program the radio? What if you're in a metal or steel/concrete building (ie a giant Faraday cage) with no cell or wifi coverage? What if you have an internet connection with low bandwidth? That's right, gotta whip out traditional CPS and the system key so you can do it locally.

The cloud ain't really all it's cracked up to be; too dependent on a fast internet connection with a lot of bandwidth. And don't get me started on the security headaches. . .

Running RM on an internal network that you control I'm OK with.
 
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