APX4000 PTT ID Display on a Conventional System?

[patrickhunter614]

I am trying to program an APX 4000 VHF on a Conventional system. I am just wondering if it is at all possible to have the radios transmit and display an ID or name associated with the radio? If so, how would I go about setting each radios Alias ID that it would transmit?

Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!

 

[mmckenna]

If it's an analog system, that is exactly what MDC1200 is for. You can program each radio with a unique hexidecimal ID. It'll only send that hex ID, so if you want radio names, you'll have to build a file in each radio that translates the MDC ID into a name. Not hard to do, but you'll need to put your hands on every radio to load the list, and anytime the names need to change, you'll need to update all the lists again.

If you are running P25, then it gets easier.

 

[GTR8000]

Analog or P25? Use MDC for analog, ASTRO for P25. You set the TX ID in the conventional system. MDC must have PTT ID enabled in both the conventional system and conventional personality, otherwise it will not encode the ID during TX. ASTRO ID is always transmitted on a P25 channel.

You then need to create a UCL with all of the IDs and corresponding aliases, which you add to each radio. That will translate the raw IDs into "names" upon RX. PTT ID Display must be enabled otherwise the radio will not display anything.

 

[patrickhunter614]

It is an Analog system, not P25. Is there a way to keep my Quik-Call II for decoding tones AND add the MDC? Or is it one or the other?

 

[GTR8000]

One or the other.

 

[patrickhunter614]

One or the other.

Got it, Thanks! So my main Fire channel I will have to keep the Quik-Call II, but I can add MDC for any other channel, is that correct?

 

[GTR8000]

It's a per-personality option. If you need QCII on one channel, create a personality for that channel and set the signaling to QCII. For MDC, you create a second personality for those channels and set the signaling to MDC. Of course there is nothing preventing you from duplicating the main fire channel in each personality, then adding each as a separate channel in the zone. When you want to have the radio alert for QCII, park on that channel. When you want to operate and see MDC ID/aliases, switch to that channel.

 

[patrickhunter614]

It's a per-personality option. If you need QCII on one channel, create a personality for that channel and set the signaling to QCII. For MDC, you create a second personality for those channels and set the signaling to MDC. Of course there is nothing preventing you from duplicating the main fire channel in each personality, then adding each as a separate channel in the zone. When you want to have the radio alert for QCII, park on that channel. When you want to operate and see MDC ID/aliases, switch to that channel.

That is a great idea! Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it! Just got the ID's work properly and display upon transmit, it is a bit of a pain creating the ID list on each radio, is there any way to copy the list from radio to radio other than maybe the clone option?

 

[Hop763]

Yes, you can drag and drop between archives. you can do a split screen on your computer. Put up your radio archive with the UCL on one side and then pick an archive to bring up on the outside and drag and drop the file into the other radio.

 

[GTR8000]

Either drag and drop between codeplugs, or even easier just click on the /\/\ logo in CPS, go to Export, select Unified Call List, and export it as an XML file. You can then import that into any other radio. Just note that the MDC system name must be the same in all radios, otherwise the UCL won't be able to reference it.

 

[patrickhunter614]

Thanks guys, I appreciate the help with this!