APX's starting to flow on ebay

[davidgcet]

it all depends on the options. i know that some of the flash options such as Moto trunking or P25 can be 1500 or more EACH. basically you are paying a software rights fee, because all the radios have all the hardware required to do it.

for public safety use, being ruggedized is VERY important. if you don't believe me ask all the LEO's that had to carry MTX8250s for a year or so. they beg to get XTS series portables!

 

[Scanner4221]

My knowledge of the capabilities of this radio are limited. What makes them worth over $6000?

Not to go all political here but if Government agencies are really spending over $6000 per radio it is no wonder we are in such bad shape. We cannot keep doing this. Political rant off.

Proven reliability is worth the money.

 

[mikewazowski]

also he mentions it is FPP but makes no mention of the dongle. you have to have the dongle on it to make changes via FPP. wonder if he includes it with them or not?

So far every APX I've seen has not required a dongle for FPP operation.

 

[davidgcet]

i dunno, the book says it requires it per FCC rules. i have not had one setup with FPP yet so i cannot confirm it. just going by the notes i saw.

 

[KE5TLF]

FULLY loaded single band APX7000's are ~$4200. Add ~$1000 for multiband.

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[davidgcet]

the MSWIN contract gives a special price break, and that price is good ONLY for government entities in MS. they can buy them cheaper than dealers can! i won't go into details on it, but under the state contract they get it a lot cheaper from Moto than a dealer can.

at list price with every option they can be quite high. the dual band radio would be nearly 7500.00 to joe blow on the street.

 

[APX6000]

APX On Ebay.

I have seen this ad too. That seems sort of expensive for not buying through a Dealer & No returns or guarentee. I Would buy from a dealer if I was going to spend that kind of money.

 

[KE5TLF]

Yeah I understand that David although I had no idea the discount was that huge. My comment was also in answer to someone saying government entities were paying out the nose for these things.

 

[davidgcet]

yeah i know, i was just making sure others realize it.

 

[kb0uxv]

i dunno, the book says it requires it per FCC rules. i have not had one setup with FPP yet so i cannot confirm it. just going by the notes i saw.

APX dongle FPP is option Q53

APX dongle free FPP is Q52.

I am with a State agency and tried like heck to order the APX with Q52, was told no way no how unless the purchaser is Federal. Note that the majority of APX radios being sold right now are dongle free. Some of the flash codes on these radios show Q53, but in fact are dongle free. I have confirmed this with a few people that have APX radios purchased on line, flash shows Q53 but FPP is dongle free. Apparently the seller(s) have figured out a hack, or is flashing Q53 radios to Q52 somehow.

I was in Schaumburg / Motorola HQ recently for training and talked to a higher up about trying to get a Q52 flash. No luck. I mentioned the Ebay radios. He stated someone is probably hacking them.

If any readers here know how to make a Q53 flash dongle free I sure would appreciate a PM. The dongle is a pain to use and of course is useless when the speaker mic is on.

 

[APX6000]

APX Dongle.

I don't know if the option is aval or not. I talked to one Motorola Dealer & he said that unless you were Federal Govt, that i couldn't get Q52 as an option.

 

[APX6000]

Just was on Ebay today& saw 2 Motorola Apx7000s. 1 Uhf/Vhf& the other Uhf high split&700/800 MhZ. I don't know legit they are. according to Motos web site UhF, R2 is not listed for the 7000 yet.

 

[NorCalrescue]

yeah how can a 2 week old radio be out of warranty already? he does not want someone to turn him in to Motorola, because he knows the unit is stolen. my shop does not run serial numbers to Moto, but you can bet if a 11,000.00 radio came in we would make a call or two if we had any suspicions.

also he mentions it is FPP but makes no mention of the dongle. you have to have the dongle on it to make changes via FPP. wonder if he includes it with them or not?

If it has Q52 it doesn't need the dongle. Q53 does however.

 

[APX6000]

Well if I ever get one I will go through a Dealer & get a legit one.No worrys then about the Radio being stolen or stuff. Will let the forum know if I ever buy one. Most likly not because of high price.

 

[davidgcet]

sooomoney, if it has Q52 it is a federal radio is highly illegal for any non-federal agency to own/operate. no one is going to turn you in over it, but should the FCC show up and find you in possession they can and likely will levy a huge fine. this is why Moto will not sell Q52 to just anyone, even i as a dealer cannot order that option for a demo radio.

 

[radioman2001]

If anybody was at Dayton this year APX's were all over the place. There was also an "individual" ? who was re flashing the radios to everything the radio was capable of, whether it had the hardware in it or not. So I wouldn't be so surprised about the dongle free FPP.
Their is apparently a flaw in the operating system (CE I think) that has allowed this whore flashing. They didn't let me get close enough to see what they were doing. They all were hooked up prior to arrival, and unless you were known to them ahead of time you couldn't get near them.

 

[APX6000]

Wish I had been @ Dayton to see the APX.