As jets closed in on China balloon, hobbyists were listening

xilix

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Apr 10, 2005
Messages
143
Location
Pasadena, CA
<puts on tin foil hat>

With the "secure" channels available to the military, why would this mission be in the clear ?
 

ka2cdk

Newbie
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Oct 1, 2006
Messages
4
Location
Wyoming, RI
Plus, it's already been tried and done and lessons were learned. Canada tried to shoot down a weather balloon many years ago and they put over 1000 rounds into it and it still didn't come down.
A minor quibble. They expended over a thousand rounds; apparently few actually hit - hence it took three days for that balloon to come down. It is unlikely our marksmanship would be any better.
 

n6hgg

Member
Joined
Dec 22, 2012
Messages
81
Location
Arcata California
With the "secure" channels available to the military, why would this mission be in the clear ?
It would be in the clear to avoid a technical foul up in communications. Simple is sometimes better, especially when World politics are involved. Encryption involves another layer of possibilities for error. And you don't want errors when you're shooting a missile at something. The captured Communications sound like typical military Aviation air band stuff. The audio characteristics with the weaker station having some a.m. type noise in the background makes me think it was definitely military a.m. airband stuff.
 

APX8000

Sarcastic Member
Joined
Nov 23, 2004
Messages
4,237
Location
AES-256 secured
It would be in the clear to avoid a technical foul up in communications. Simple is sometimes better, especially when World politics are involved. Encryption involves another layer of possibilities for error. And you don't want errors when you're shooting a missile at something. The captured Communications sound like typical military Aviation air band stuff. The audio characteristics with the weaker station having some a.m. type noise in the background makes me think it was definitely military a.m. airband stuff.
I use encryption everyday. I love how people generalize its use to "possibilities for error." A properly encrypted radio is no different than a non-encrypted radio. As an example, I'd rather have secure comms calling in a missile strike as a ground unit in the MIL rather than giving my coordinates over the air so the enemy can intercept and drop a surprise on my head.
 

W2JEL

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Jul 31, 2011
Messages
48
Location
Chesapeake Va
I use encryption everyday. I love how people generalize its use to "possibilities for error." A properly encrypted radio is no different than a non-encrypted radio. As an example, I'd rather have secure comms calling in a missile strike as a ground unit in the MIL rather than giving my coordinates over the air so the enemy can intercept and drop a surprise on my head.
I think it was done more so for political transparency. IMHO
 

dave3825

* * * * * * * * * * * *
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Feb 17, 2003
Messages
7,648
Location
Suffolk County NY
hey could have shot it down with a 22 rifle
60000 feet is just over 11 miles. A LR22 round has a range just over a mile and would need to be at an arc angle close to to 30 degrees to go that full distance. And a 22 rifle is only accurate to about 300 yards.
 

chrismol1

P25 TruCking!
Joined
Mar 15, 2008
Messages
1,181
I dont think theres anybody out there who really thought of hitting it at 60k with a 22 was reality.. I think he's mocking the CNN or MSNBC opinion reporters that were mocking the midwest and southern states as well as gun owners during the debate of shooting it down, mockingly stating something "you can't shoot everything you want with your .22"
 
Last edited:
Top