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Hello People. I have an Astro Saber III 800 Mhz portable. When reading the radio with CPS, it says that it is Rebandable Enabled. The county has gone to the new rebanded frequencies in my area ( Saint Lucie County , Florida) , so i programmed the new control channels into it, but it will not trunk correcty( I have gaps in the conversation). Is it possible that even though it says it is reband enabled, that it would still not work ?. Thanks in advance.
 

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Does the CPS version have anything to do with it. When i look at the trunking properties, I can only split the frequencies by either 12.5k or 20.0k. Is this in the firmware of the radio, or is it in the cps software ? Any help would be appreciated.
 

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It is driven by the firmware version of the radio. From what your experiencing the version you have is not rebanding capable no matter what the CPS tells you.

Time to go buy a scanner.....
 

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Before the admin turns your radio into a boat anchor, you'd be best off not to attempt illegal/unauthorized access to a system.
 

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Hello People. I have an Astro Saber III 800 Mhz portable. When reading the radio with CPS, it says that it is Rebandable Enabled. The county has gone to the new rebanded frequencies in my area ( Saint Lucie County , Florida) , so i programmed the new control channels into it, but it will not trunk correcty( I have gaps in the conversation). Is it possible that even though it says it is reband enabled, that it would still not work ?. Thanks in advance.
 

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Trooper890, Radio was purchased off of ebay and found to have been a former FHP radio programmed with different county systems throughout florida ( Many of same radio still on sale on EBAY) Why would they allow radios to be sold with that info still in them? I have taken your good advice and removed all info from the radio. and left it with 1 default receive only channel just so that i would be able to write back to it. I will go buy a scanner and have this radio added to our SMR system. Thanks again.
 
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Doesnt matter FHP doesnt use those frequencies anyways. They are Provoice now.
 

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I know they are now edacs. What i was pointing out is why would the fhp allow their former motorola radios with other non agency systems programmed into them to be sold on the market like that. Why didnt they clear them first like i did with the ones I bought off of ebay. I was shocked when i saw that. They allowed radios to be sold that could key up on non FHP systems. Only way i was able to clear mines was to load a virgin codeplug then read the codeplug using cps to bring the codeplug back up to date. Our new radios are now set on our company SMR repeater replacing our old mtx8000 radios.
 

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It's been a while, but I believe that M/A Com was tasked with disposing of the subscriber's as they received some discounts for the surplused equipment. If this was in fact true there was no motovation to remove the old equipment and FHP disbanded their radio shops at the finalizing of the system so staffing was minimal, if not totally gone.

Just curious, what systems did you find in the radios before you wiped them?
 

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KS4VT, They were mostly in the central part of florida. Polk county, Highlands county, Orange County, Okechobee county, Lakeland, Citrus county, Pinellas county, etc.
 

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Doesn't sound like it was a real FHP radio.
If you don't have a system key or a good id you are out of luck. Astro SABERS were turned in as not rebandable according to Nexthell Sprintless. They were buying new models.
Sorry I think you are out of luck.
 

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The state/M/A Com has yet to begin the physical part of the rebanding process and I would think that he actually does have a real surplused FHP radio. Yes they are too old and can't be rebanded, but the migration to EDACS from Motorola Astro happened even before the first rebanding negotiation even started in Wave 1.
 

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Astro SABERS were turned in as not rebandable according to Nexthell Sprintless

Astro Sabers (100% positive about 1meg radios, id imagine the ancient 512k models may not be however) are rebandable as they use essentially the same firmware as the XTS3000, and its not Sprints call to replace them... its a moot point anyway as the Motorola system was deconstructed long before rebanding came to FHP.
 

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Radios were ex FHP radios " Confirmed with Seller" And radios were reband capable" Confirmed with Motorola". Problem is that our CPS was not new enough, So all we had to do was purchase the newer software from Motorola for the repeater and radios. We are good to go now.
 

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Astro Sabers (100% positive about 1meg radios, id imagine the ancient 512k models may not be however) are rebandable as they use essentially the same firmware as the XTS3000, and its not Sprints call to replace them... its a moot point anyway as the Motorola system was deconstructed long before rebanding came to FHP.

The 512K models are not as we are replacing about 40something for one of the local municipalities. Their 1meg radios need to be flashed to the latest version to work correctly, but are reusable. The 512K radios are being replaced with xts2500's.
 

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The 512K radios are being replaced with xts2500's.

not a bad deal there, up here on SZ9031 our LTS2000s were replaced with XTS2500 1.5s and our LCS2000s were replaced with XTL2500s

talk about an upgrade lol
 

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Radios were ex FHP radios " Confirmed with Seller" And radios were reband capable" Confirmed with Motorola". Problem is that our CPS was not new enough, So all we had to do was purchase the newer software from Motorola for the repeater and radios. We are good to go now.

Unless the "seller" updated the firmware, which costs $75 per radio, it needs more than just a "CPS version" change to trunk properly. The original firmware in the FHP/Game & FIsh radios was very old, probably not updated from when they went from VSLEP to IMBE, and not rebandable as my group programmed a number of these radio years ago for Game & Fish and it was ancient firmware back then.
 

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KS4VT, They were upgraded " Confirmed by motorola" and we have reprogrammed them to our SMR system.
 
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