spacellamaman
Member
Well NC Mil-Air enthusiasts (yes i am talking to all 7 of you) if ya ever
wondered whether it was worth the time & effort to attempt to monitor HAVEQUICK
transmissions, the following should do very little to assist you. I am
still on the fence, and i have already expended the effort.
So...i had read about HAVEQUICK long ago, but considering the difficulty in
monitoring it, PLUS, not having a clue if it was used in the area, just
filed the info away in the Dark Cavern/Black Hole that is the Grand
Repository of Useless Knowledge, my Memory. I imagine this is fairly
common. I mean, who knows if its even used at all? the system has been
around for nearly 30 years, surely they don't use it much, or if they do,
then near some high intensity area, not somewhere close by. And the same
16 frequencies that are listed in manuals from the early 90's? Doubtful.
Well let this be a further lesson to you(me), the military, all branches, seems
quite content in many cases, staying with the tried and true, what we know
works is foolish to change, and above all else, if its already programmed,
well....just leave it alone. Who can remember how to program the thing
anyway?
as far back as beginning of this summer i had been seeing evidence of
HAVEQUICK usage; strong, clear, fractional second transmissions on
"random" frequencies at least once or twice a week.
only about two weeks ago did i finally have it dawn on me that it wasn't a
fluke, and started making preparations which paid off yesterday (11/28/2018).
Around 5pm I noted there had been a single, no audio key-up on a HQ II FMT
freq logged on my PRO668 occurring around 4:50pm. so i calmly...
SPRANG INTO ACTION!!! BAM!!! POW!!! DING!!!
over the next 10 minutes, with 3 scanners each running the same 16 freqs
(and only those 16, dedicated playlists/banks having been setup prior) it was clear that
there was a single individuals voice smearing across them periodically. but
smoking fast.
The Pro-668, with all its faults, seems to be better suited here, as with
No Delay selected, resume is near instantaneous, and there were multiple
cases of 2+ freqs recorded in a one second time frame. 33 individual
recordings had a total duration on playback of 7.3 seconds.
unfortunately, i prefer Unidens, which are less well suited to this
situation, as even with a zero second Delay chosen, the resumption of
scanning is much slower on the 436HP. 34 individual recordings, on playback
had a total duration of 50-ish seconds with no more actual audio recorded than with the
PRO668.
I had set all three (BR330T, PRO668, BCD436HP) with their screen lights
off, but each configured to turn on the screen upon reception, and watching
them in real time further confirmed the pros/cons of each model as the
Unidens would *blink* *pause* *blink* while the PRO668 looked like a strobe
light.
As there is some confusing and sometimes contradictory info out there, and
most of it quite old, the following is a link to a relatively recent
publication. for those who aren't familiar with HAVEQUICK but want to try
their luck, or just don't want to re-find the info, this one is pretty good
https://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/MCRP 3-40.3A z.pdf
on page 95 (109 actual) is:
"Table 13. HQ II FM T-Net Frequencies (Megahertz) "
the CONUS Alaska Hawaii Korea list is the one that I was using, and from
reading the instructions -should- be the only one relevant to those of us
in the CONUS. well i guess it's relevant for the Dear Respected Comrade
too.
So there ya have it folks. Don't just sit there staring at the screen. Get to programming eh?!
hows that for a QUICK Announcement?
puts the HAVELONG one to shame don't it?
wondered whether it was worth the time & effort to attempt to monitor HAVEQUICK
transmissions, the following should do very little to assist you. I am
still on the fence, and i have already expended the effort.
So...i had read about HAVEQUICK long ago, but considering the difficulty in
monitoring it, PLUS, not having a clue if it was used in the area, just
filed the info away in the Dark Cavern/Black Hole that is the Grand
Repository of Useless Knowledge, my Memory. I imagine this is fairly
common. I mean, who knows if its even used at all? the system has been
around for nearly 30 years, surely they don't use it much, or if they do,
then near some high intensity area, not somewhere close by. And the same
16 frequencies that are listed in manuals from the early 90's? Doubtful.
Well let this be a further lesson to you(me), the military, all branches, seems
quite content in many cases, staying with the tried and true, what we know
works is foolish to change, and above all else, if its already programmed,
well....just leave it alone. Who can remember how to program the thing
anyway?
as far back as beginning of this summer i had been seeing evidence of
HAVEQUICK usage; strong, clear, fractional second transmissions on
"random" frequencies at least once or twice a week.
only about two weeks ago did i finally have it dawn on me that it wasn't a
fluke, and started making preparations which paid off yesterday (11/28/2018).
Around 5pm I noted there had been a single, no audio key-up on a HQ II FMT
freq logged on my PRO668 occurring around 4:50pm. so i calmly...
SPRANG INTO ACTION!!! BAM!!! POW!!! DING!!!
over the next 10 minutes, with 3 scanners each running the same 16 freqs
(and only those 16, dedicated playlists/banks having been setup prior) it was clear that
there was a single individuals voice smearing across them periodically. but
smoking fast.
The Pro-668, with all its faults, seems to be better suited here, as with
No Delay selected, resume is near instantaneous, and there were multiple
cases of 2+ freqs recorded in a one second time frame. 33 individual
recordings had a total duration on playback of 7.3 seconds.
unfortunately, i prefer Unidens, which are less well suited to this
situation, as even with a zero second Delay chosen, the resumption of
scanning is much slower on the 436HP. 34 individual recordings, on playback
had a total duration of 50-ish seconds with no more actual audio recorded than with the
PRO668.
I had set all three (BR330T, PRO668, BCD436HP) with their screen lights
off, but each configured to turn on the screen upon reception, and watching
them in real time further confirmed the pros/cons of each model as the
Unidens would *blink* *pause* *blink* while the PRO668 looked like a strobe
light.
As there is some confusing and sometimes contradictory info out there, and
most of it quite old, the following is a link to a relatively recent
publication. for those who aren't familiar with HAVEQUICK but want to try
their luck, or just don't want to re-find the info, this one is pretty good
https://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/MCRP 3-40.3A z.pdf
on page 95 (109 actual) is:
"Table 13. HQ II FM T-Net Frequencies (Megahertz) "
the CONUS Alaska Hawaii Korea list is the one that I was using, and from
reading the instructions -should- be the only one relevant to those of us
in the CONUS. well i guess it's relevant for the Dear Respected Comrade
too.
So there ya have it folks. Don't just sit there staring at the screen. Get to programming eh?!
hows that for a QUICK Announcement?
puts the HAVELONG one to shame don't it?
