Aurora Police totally Pro-Voice

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All APD TG's are full pro-voice digital including dispatchers.

Primary Aurora Fire TG's remain analog.

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A 10 second countdown test is on a loop on ID 274 and it sounds like crap compared to the rest of the Provoice Aurora system
 

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Erik,

What type of receiver does it take to listen to ProVoice? Brand/Cost?
 

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Erik,

What type of receiver does it take to listen to ProVoice? Brand/Cost?
There are no scanners on the market that receive ProVoice. Without getting a 2-way programmed into the system, you're out of luck.
 

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Well, they must have solved the simulcast timing issues and be happy enough with it.
I am surprised. I kinda figured it never would work good enough.
I will listen tomorrow and check it out. The battery I have only lasts about 4 hours so I have to hunt up a new one.

I wonder who will be next--Denver, Lakewood, or Arv-West?
 

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I don't know about them getting the "problems" solved quite yet. A little birdie says they are testing to see if the engineers have tweaked the system enough make the city happy. AFD is obviously still not impressed.

Lakewood & Wheatridge PD are capable of it and ESK now but not using it.

Denver approved a $25 million plus simulcast system (Like Aurora's) upgrade earlier this year so it will be a year or more at the earliest to get an idea whether they plan on having the District cars digital or not. Right now some specialized users have it but use has been limited so far. ESK could shut down the party in either case.

Westy/Arvada. Are currently not running around with pro-voice radios.

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Denver approved a $25 million plus simulcast system (Like Aurora's) upgrade earlier this year so it will be a year or more at the earliest to get an idea whether they plan on having the District cars digital or not. Right now some specialized users have it but use has been limited so far. ESK could shut down the party in either case.
Phil.

Actually the EEB is installing the mobiles District by District as we speak. Per one of their techs, it will be about a year before the system infrastucture is installed and running.
 

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I think I will dedicate an old 895 I have sitting around to tapping the discriminator and spend the winter exploring options to listen to EDACS systems using ESK and ProVoice. I know the ESK is easy, but the ProVoice will surely be a *****. I hate to think about not being able to listen to Denver anymore.
I paid $800.00 when I bought my 700p last year, now it seems any ProVoice radio has gone out of sight as far as price and availability--
 

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Actually the EEB is installing the mobiles District by District as we speak. Per one of their techs, it will be about a year before the system infrastucture is installed and running.
Field equipment is the easy part. I can't see them bumping up the single site configuration to pro-voice before taking it down for the simulcast system.
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I think I will dedicate an old 895 I have sitting around to tapping the discriminator and spend the winter exploring options to listen to EDACS systems using ESK and ProVoice.
Better yet don't tap mod the 895. Use the 895 as the controlled receiver with regular Etrunker or the ESK Etrunker program which does control the 895 scanner. It worked flawlessly for me before the BC245XLT came out.
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I hate to think about not being able to listen to Denver anymore.
It was the city's intention back in 1992 to control who could monitor them. Will this be a repeat performance? In time we will find out.

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Phil, You are right about the 895. I forgot about the RS232 on the back. I always thought it was too good to Tap mod.
I bought that 895 when Tech America was still around. I have 2 2052's that might be a better choice-- but I like them too.
 

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FWIW I'm hearing dispatch in analog on the APD TG's tonight.

Looks like this experiment didn't last long either.

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I don't know why the Mayor would care so much, but he was quoted by a reliable source that he stated in a meeting about a year ago "By God, we paid for a working digital system and thats what we will get."

I listen occasionally, and it doesn't sound any better than it ever has to me, but I am in south Denver, so a bit far for using a portable. I am not impressed with the audio on the 700P even in analog. The old MPA sounds way better.
 

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Aurora ProVoice

Hello Thayne
In reference to your post, have you ever been able to use a 700P and a MPA at the same time? I have noticed that the MPA will recieve at a longer range than the 700P, and yes, at longer ranges the MPA audio clarity beets the 700P hands down.
 

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MPA- Tank built by General Electric. Can wake up the neighborhood at high volume. Meant as a portable radio that you could use as a defensive weapon or wheel chock for a semi. (G.E. had a promotional flyer with a picture of the rear wheels of a semi truck on one of these and it was still working and intact.) :cool:

700P- Plastic radio with Fisher-Price sized buttons made by M/A-Com. Poor audio. Not sure about using it for a wheel chock. :lol:

Aurora was sold a bill of goods. The I.T. guy and the mayor should just suck it up and admit that they were clueless and BS'ed. Using T-Mobile GPRS for MDC's worked out real well for them too. :p

Good thing they didn't buy into closed sky.

We have our issues up here in "The Greeley Jungle" but I'm glad I moved out of Aurora 7 years ago.

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Phil summed it up about those 2 radios. I almost wish I had got an LPE-200 as it would have been cheaper than the Jaguar, but the radio guys "In the know" said LPE-200s are a piece of crap. Now that I have played with both, they both seem crappy, but the audio seems better on the LPE-200. It seems lighter, too.
I would get rid of the 700P except for Denver might go ProVoice, and I would have no portable way to hear it. I really don't care much about Aurora, since I don't live there anymore. IMHO they should run it in analog and use Nexthell Or a FEW encrypted proVoice groups for their whore busts or donut runs :)
The only comparison about the MPA and 700P is that the MPA would receive DIA better from here than the 700P.
 

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Hello Thayne
Thats exactly what I was thinking about, DIA. With the MPA, I receive them clear out to near Golden, but the 700P starts with the "CC SCAN" crap before I even get to LoDo (!). Also, the audio sounds a little "electronic", for want of a better term. I was excited when I first got the 700P, but that lasted about a month. The MPA is back in use. The only thing that sucks, though, is that when the rebanding takes place, the MPA is done from what I have been hearing. I never have had a chance to play with the LPE-200. I almost bought a used one, until I noticed that one of the boards inside was BROKE! Needless to say, I didn't walk away from that deal, I ran........
 

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I am fairly sure that EDACS radios (MPA included) will handle the rebanding, but ESK or ProVoice would make you use it for a wheel chock--like Phil said.

Maybe Phil knows for sure about the rebanding, but I think it just applies to Older MOTO's and scanners.
 
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