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CommShrek
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Where's the NIMS training? If you call me up and say "We have a Signal 82 blah blah blah.." and you hear someone say "What's a Signal 82 in your area mean?" then you know you've gotten a hold of me. It's not that I don't know, it's the fact that we are all supposed to be communicating with plain english.
Anyway....I guess those 2 people that ran into the semi truck didn't make it?
Anyway....I guess those 2 people that ran into the semi truck didn't make it?
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Geez.....The man was just trying to relay something that he thought was important. I am sure that everyone understood him. Don't cut him off at the knees for not using the NIMS format. He is isn't on the air on a public service channel He is posting on the internet where NIMS doesn't apply because it isn't emergency interagency communication.
Phil sounds like they had a busy night. I bet that trooper had his hands full doing a bunch of reports and traffic control. Any of them fatality by the end cause they sounded serious? We call that a 30 where I'm from.
Phil sounds like they had a busy night. I bet that trooper had his hands full doing a bunch of reports and traffic control. Any of them fatality by the end cause they sounded serious? We call that a 30 where I'm from.
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freqscout said:
The 2 people in the first accident mentioned were deceased when Creek County EMS got there. The guy in the second crash at the race track wasn't hurt all that bad.
It was not my intention to bash Phil at all. I know he was just making a couple of quick posts. My point was, that there are people from all over that read these posts. These posts get broadcast even further than stuff "on the air or on a public service channel" and the NIMS plain english training would apply here, even MORE so than on the radio due to the wide variety of people who read our posts. Althought NIMS may not apply, hopefully you didn't miss the point I was trying to make.
Point being: 10 codes and Signals mean different things in different locations but if we all use plain english, things should be easily understood by people in different locations. That PRINCIPLE does apply here even if NIMS doesn't.
whoa! Sorry folks I didn't realize Mr. Blanton had made Radioreference NIMS compliant:lol:
Creek Co uses the 10-codes and signals published by Oklahoma DPS. If you'd like a copy, I have them all..... Sig 82 is an injury accident; the one on I44 ended up being a sig-30 (fatality) like Twobravo said...the Trooper called for the ME (Medical Examiner:wink: ) within 5mins after being 10-97 (onscene:wink: ). It was pretty gruesome from what I hear.
the subject in the other wreck was sig-88 (intoxicated:wink: )transported by Lifeflight b/c of a head injury but i belive he is in fair condition.
Creek Co uses the 10-codes and signals published by Oklahoma DPS. If you'd like a copy, I have them all..... Sig 82 is an injury accident; the one on I44 ended up being a sig-30 (fatality) like Twobravo said...the Trooper called for the ME (Medical Examiner:wink: ) within 5mins after being 10-97 (onscene:wink: ). It was pretty gruesome from what I hear.
the subject in the other wreck was sig-88 (intoxicated:wink: )transported by Lifeflight b/c of a head injury but i belive he is in fair condition.
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In case you hadn't figured it out - some of us would prefer NOT to have to learn the codes for 400 jurisdictions just to read the forums.
8 years as a volunteer FF outside KCMO, 7 more as a Navy DC, and (overlapping) 25 years as a scanner buff (mostly fire related) and I've NEVER learned the codes. Because in 9 locations in 5 metros I've never heard a fire department that used them.
I hear a few now - Jenks and Sapulpa (when the FD is talking to the PD, or the call comes in via the police dispatch). The funny thing is, except for Jenks, the PD usually has to translate because the FD doesn't know what they mean!
I don't live in Jenks or Creek Cty, so I don't really care to learn them now, either - especially since I wouldn't be learning MINE. I don't listen to PD, just FD, and like I said, the only FD that I can receive from my location (unless I'm travelling) is Jenks, and then only because they're still dispatching on UHF. I can't hear the BA trunked system from my house.
So, out of COURTESY to those of us who don't "live there" and don't care to pretend we do, could you all PLEASE translate the codes?
I can probably figure them out from context about 90% of the time (I did spend all that time as a firefighter, remember?) but I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO!
8 years as a volunteer FF outside KCMO, 7 more as a Navy DC, and (overlapping) 25 years as a scanner buff (mostly fire related) and I've NEVER learned the codes. Because in 9 locations in 5 metros I've never heard a fire department that used them.
I hear a few now - Jenks and Sapulpa (when the FD is talking to the PD, or the call comes in via the police dispatch). The funny thing is, except for Jenks, the PD usually has to translate because the FD doesn't know what they mean!
I don't live in Jenks or Creek Cty, so I don't really care to learn them now, either - especially since I wouldn't be learning MINE. I don't listen to PD, just FD, and like I said, the only FD that I can receive from my location (unless I'm travelling) is Jenks, and then only because they're still dispatching on UHF. I can't hear the BA trunked system from my house.
So, out of COURTESY to those of us who don't "live there" and don't care to pretend we do, could you all PLEASE translate the codes?
I can probably figure them out from context about 90% of the time (I did spend all that time as a firefighter, remember?) but I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO!
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