What is wrong with radio service people since the narrow banding went into effect. I can hardly hear some radios, and others are so distorted from off frequency or over deviation they a not intelligible - on the same system. Tone pages are way, way too loud in some cases, as are MDC/ANI. It used to be tone was 2/3rds system deviation not 3 times.Sheech!.
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mmckenna
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Why do it right when you can do it fast and charge just as much. Anyway, when the radio comes in for service you can charge them again to do it "right".
kinfolk
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Our local fire departments all used to sound pretty good on VHF. Since narrowbanding, they all sound pretty terrible. Narrowbanding VHFsucks big time!!!
WA0CBW
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I suppose there are some shops that don't thoroughly check out the radio but we have had about a third of our customers that simply asked us to turn the modulation down on their base station or repeater. We have informed them that doesn't comply legally or technically with narrowbanding. We have also found a few radios out there that the only thing that changed when narrowbanded was the deviation. The receiver is still wideband. Reducing the deviation also reduces the received signal to noise ratio which translates to less coverage. So if their system was marginal in some areas before narrowbanding those areas may be unusable after narrowbanding.
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kinfolk
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You perfectly described what is happening here in Clark County, Ohio. I have already heard that there are a couple of departments that are investigating going to MARCS. Their VHF radios are no longer providing reliable communications.
Rather than placing the blame on the radio shops, try to remember that you're using a scanner, not a professional radio designed and built specifically for narrow-band use. You could be the one who's off, not them.
In addition, some departments did not narrowband as they should have.
None of the managers at the shops I do business with would risk allowing that kind of nonsense to go on, as the FCC penalties alone would drive most shops out of business; loss of one's FCC General Radiotelephone Operators License would also be a blow, even though a GROL isn't always required anymore.
Well Tom a good thought but I am using NB Motorola commercial equipment, amateur radio equipment, as well as scanners.
When the "good" dispatchers also complain I know it's not just me.
These are conventional UHF and VHF frequencies in an area I won't mention.
There are some digital trunked FD talkgoups I hear page tones that are terrible but I think they are just rebroadcasts from some other conventional frequency.
I'm retired now but spent a considerable amount of time in the two-way field.
Roger that!
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