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Baofeng Baofeng HT Saves A Life

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I heard the ARRL is starting a new award contest WAB (Worked all BaoFeng). You get points for every BaoFeng to BaoFeng contact you make. Extra points for contacts from one Walmart parking lot to another (WAB-WAP). Can't be same Walmart Parking lot.

Dang, that was funny!

Although I'd add a multiplier if you did a visual QSO using the built in flashlight.
 

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I'm not sure what the FCC label really means anymore. I don't know if the Chinese radio manufacturers are submitting one radio for testing and then selling a different radio or if they are faking the test results that are submitted to the FCC or if they are simply faking the label.

All that ambiguity aside, I own two Baofeng UV-5R radios. One was purchased by me in the summer of 2018. The other was sent to me by a Baofeng importer in the summer of 2019. They do not look the same on the spectrum analyzer. Is this a normal variation in the radios? I'm going to say "probably not" given the number of other UV-5Rs I've tested that all look the same. Has the Baofeng factory changed the design in order to filter out the spurious emissions possibly due to the heat they are getting from the FCC? Maybe. Did this particular importer specify that the radios in their shipment had to meet FCC spectral purity rules? Maybe.

But, all of this is tangential to the article linked to in the first post. The headline of that article is "Ham Radio Saving A Life Locally!" not "Baofeng Saves Life" as the OP stated. It doesn't matter that a Baofeng was used in this situation. It matters that an amateur radio operator with a radio was able to reach someone on the air and get help for a person in distress. If the radio had been an iKenSue, the brand of radio would not have been a issue and would not have been used by the OP to justify the use of radios that don't meet FCC rules.
There was a happy ending here where a life was saved no matter what type of radio was used. The FCC rules state that you can use any freq available to you in a life or death situation. I have several models of Baofengs. Other than the FCC label on the UV82C, the radio has to be programmed on a computer before you can change anything on the radio. But after that, anything can be changed on the run.
 

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And here I am wondering why the adult diabetic was out on the Appalachian trail without food & a glucometer but somehow remembered their ham radio...
Read it again more closely. It was a third party who had the radio and happened upon the victim...
 

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Like it or not, Baofeng has brought users into an otherwise dying hobby that they would never have gotten into it if their first radio cost 300 to 400 bucks rather than 29.99.

Yaesu, Motorola, Icom, etc should also thank Baofeng for their current sales.
Nice conjecture.
 

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Like it or not, Baofeng has brought users into an otherwise dying hobby that they would never have gotten into it if their first radio cost 300 to 400 bucks rather than 29.99.

Yaesu, Motorola, Icom, etc should also thank Baofeng for their current sales.
Yaesu FT-60R -- Old-school dual-band handheld. Reliable radio that meets FCC rules for spurious emissions. Sold and serviced by company with a solid reputation. $155

Yaesu FT-4XR -- New-school radio-on-a-chip handheld. Not on the market long enough to know about it's reputation. Meets FCC rules for spurious emissions. Sold and serviced by company with a solid reputation. $75

Anyone who thinks they have to spend $300-400 on a new dual-band handheld hasn't researched the market.

And, I don't know why Motorola is even in the conversation. They don't sell their radios to the amateur radio market.

But, all we are doing is re-hashing the same debate that amateur radio operators have been having since the first Wouxun radios created such a stir at the Dayton Hamvention 10 years ago. Cheap, Chinese radios are here and cheap hams will continue to buy them. These hams don't seem to care about §97.307 of the FCC rules or even understand what it means. But, technical knowledge is not a requirement to get an amateur radio license which leaves hams at the mercy of opportunistic or unscrupulous retailers and importers who continue to sell radios that don't meet the rules. All that matters is that the radio is cheap. And, the company that builds Baofengs is more than happy to sell their crap to unknowing or uncaring amateur radio operators.

The false premise of this thread is that a "Baofeng HT saves a life". The OP is, apparently, a Baofeng proponent and was trying to make a point. The linked article headline says nothing about Baofeng. The fact is that any amateur radio could have been used in this incident.
 
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You are nitpicking isolated items but the truth still stands. Sure there may be a cheap Yaesu and perhaps Motorola no longer sells Ham radios. I can counter by saying that Baofengs are still cheaper and Motorola’s are sold on eBay. Then you can say that bottom older Motorolas on eBay doesn’t generate money for Motorola. That isn’t the point.

The point is that Baofeng has brought tons of people to radio that otherwise would have never come due to price. It’s a gateway to many. Just looking at the amount of YouTube videos on Baofengs and CHIRP downloads is clear evidence of that.
 

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The point is that Baofeng has brought tons of people to radio that otherwise would have never come due to price. It’s a gateway to many. Just looking at the amount of YouTube videos on Baofengs and CHIRP downloads is clear evidence of that.
Part of being a ham and the reason why amateur radio still exists is that amateur radio operators are supposed to possess a certain degree of technical skill and respect for the radio spectrum. Refusing to acknowledge and respect the rules are good fuel for those who have pecuniary interest in the spectrum to dissolve it and re-purpose said spectrum for commercial radios. 97.307 applies whether you, I or anyone else like it and fact is, the one-chip wonder CCRs with piss poor or non-existent filtering on transmit make them non-compliant for AMATEUR use, let alone whatever dubious rubber stamped "Part 90" certification exists or not doesn't really matter if the radio in question can't radiate spurious emissions at the published levels or lower which has been demonstrated, they don't because their POSes by design.


Believing lies doesn't make them true.
 

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Part of being a ham and the reason why amateur radio still exists is that amateur radio operators are supposed to possess a certain degree of technical skill and respect for the radio spectrum. Refusing to acknowledge and respect the rules are good fuel for those who have pecuniary interest in the spectrum to dissolve it and re-purpose said spectrum for commercial radios. 97.307 applies whether you, I or anyone else like it and fact is, the one-chip wonder CCRs with piss poor or non-existent filtering on transmit make them non-compliant for AMATEUR use, let alone whatever dubious rubber stamped "Part 90" certification exists.

Believing lies doesn't make them true.
I fail to see with what you just wrote above has to do with the thousand upon thousands of Baofengs sold. Nobody is saying here that a Baofeng is better than an Icom. Nobody.

What is being said is that a cheap radio has brought a lot of people to HAM. You can add FRS and MURS to that list as well.

Are you disputing that point?
 
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