Its called reviews. Read them sometime. Too many people have said that dis-cone has fallen apart and was just made cheap. I know where the 164 is made. And? I didn't say ALL things made in china are bad or all things made by RS are bad, However majority of it is. If someone is just getting started in the radio hobby, Why would you suggest them buy something cheap and that won't last so that their experience is bad and will get out of the hobby? I suggested the st-2 because it is a workhorse, rugged, affordable, and will last. $70 for a antenna that screws together and shortly fall apart? C'mon.You can get the same thing for $40 cheaper and it is more durable unless you have money you want to waste. I've seen them in person. You couldn't pay me to take one home. EVERY review I read on RS antennas are that they either don't work, fall apart, over-priced, made cheap, something else priced cheaper works better, etc... Don't get me started on the kids that work there now...