Battery question for BCD396XT

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Hi. Just bought a Uniden BCD396XT scanner. I have the switch set to ni-mh and have the ac adapter plugged into the outlet and scanner with new 3 AA rechargable batteries. I turned off the scanner for charge time set 14hrs but it says charge off. Isnt supposed to start charging? I turn the scanner on and it does charge then but powered off it doesnt. Any ideas?
 

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Your batteries will last longer if you use a good external charger that charges and conditions each battery individually. There are many posts on the forum about this.
 

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Your batteries will last longer if you use a good external charger that charges and conditions each battery individually. There are many posts on the forum about this.
Ok thanks. Will rapid charging hurt my batteries?
 

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It won't hurt the batterys... But it will shorten the usable life span of them, if done all the time...

This is the charger I use for NiMh batts...

 
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It won't hurt the batterys... But it will shorten the usable life span of them, if done all the time...

This is the charger I use for NiMh batts...


This is the best charger out there currently on the market. I own one, it's an improved version of its previous iteration which, in its day, was the best charger available.

Check out Maha's website to see if they have any deals going if you sign up for their newsletter. I purchased my unit there using the 10% discount code provided by Maha.
 

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I to had the previous version... Had it over ten years before it crapped out...
I have the new version now...
 

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Ok thanks. Will rapid charging hurt my batteries?


It will if it heats them up too much.
The chargers that announce "charge your batteries in an hour!" = "fry your batteries in an hour!".
Maha recommends a charging current of around 0.5 X mAh capacity = 1000 mA for an AA cell rated at 2000 mAh

It's not a good idea to charge the batteries using the radio's internal charging circuit (just a dumb charging circuit, there's no monitoring/regulation of the charging process), it's asking for trouble if something goes wrong (I know this from experience = burning plastic smell and melted battery compartment).
Also, the radio's charging feature treats all the cells as if they're just one battery, if one cell goes bad it compromises the performance of the other cells. An intelligent charger like the Maha charges/monitors each cell individually and via the display data you'll be able to see if one cell is not functioning/charging correctly. The Maha charger will also reject cells that have gone bad.

Get an intelligent charger like the Maha MH-C9000PRO.
That way you can monitor the health of the batteries.

You don't mention what type of rechargeable AA cells you're using, but the Gold Standard AA cells are the Japanese-made Eneloops. Never had an Eneloop battery fail, and I've some that are around 10 years old and still holding a good charge.

Avoid like the plague the various Chinese-manufactured rechargeable AAs, which also includes the major brand names (exception being the Amazon Basics AA cells, made in China now, but seem to be okay), they're crap, as I've also learned from experience.
 
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I cant speek for off brand batterys... But "ENELOOP" batt's are spec'd buy the manufacturer at an 1amp charge rate for optimal
performance and life span...
Obviously that is not what a quick charge current is at...
I missed the "30min" in his post...
 
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I cant speek for off brand batterys... But "ENELOOP" batt's are spec'd buy the manufacturer at an 1amp charge rate for optimal
performance and life span...
Obviously that is not what a quick charge current is at...

The charging current needs to be high enough for the charger to detect the -deltaV point indicating a 100% charge. If the charging current is too low then the charger has difficulty detecting when -deltaV occurs. If it's too high, the batteries will overheat, damaging them.

All the major brand AA rechargeable AAs are manufactured in China and poor quality (the exception being the Amazon Basics brand AAs, their premium AA cells used to be made in Japan, but no longer are. Still, I have some of those and they seem to be holding up well). The China-made AA cells are also usually overrated, some vastly so. NiMH technology is currently only capable of a max AA cell rating of 2700 mAh.
You see AA rechargeables advertised on Amazon rated at 2800mAh and even 3000 mAh! It's baloney, they're cheap (a warning sign) and I've bought some in the past to determine their actual rating. All have substantially lower ratings than advertised, the AAs rated at 3000 mAh I bought (4 for $6.00!) were actually around 2000 mAh.

Powerex sells AAs rated at 2700 mAh. They are accurately rated for capacity, but expensive and not tolerant of misuse, unless charged and immediately used etc. they tend to get sluggish and start to lose the capacity to achieve a full charge. Unlike the Eneloops, they're also not true low self-discharge cells and lose capacity much faster if left around unused.
 
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I use rechargeable D cells to power a bedside LED lantern.

Bought 4 EBL brand D rechargeables that EBL claims are 10,000 mAh.
I've another charger that can determine the capacity of D cells.
Their max capacity is actually 7,500 mAh so they're only 75% of the claimed capacity.

Also bought 4 Amazon Basics rechargeable D cells rated at 10,000 mAh
They clocked in at slightly over 11,000 mAh, so Amazon is actually underrating them!
 
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I've used rechargeables in my 396xt for years, go into settings and put the charge time lower. Try 2 or even 3 hours time is all. The 14 hours would be ok for completely dead batteries. We know the radio shuts down at 3.35 volts, so they are not completely dead by a long shot.
 

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i tried mine, how does it show 'charging' when on ?

the little switch-
left: is no charge/alkaline
right: is to charge/NiMH
 
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I have been using a charger from Ikea for several years that charges and conditions each cell individually. Definitely an improvement over the old gang style charger and reasonable cost.
 
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