Bay County (Motorola Type II Smartnet & P25p2 00A.924B5)

marksroberson

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I talked to the county radio techs the other day.
Heard about the flaws in the system, won’t go into them now. The thing about TGs is if there is a phase 1 radio on a phase 2 TG, the entire tg is brought down to phase 1. Panama City beach fire uses Harris portables, has APX radios as backups and XTL radios in trucks. So the entire TG is phase1. All of the sheriff office is on Harris so they are all phase 2 but if just one Motorola radio switched over to their channel it would bring the entire TG to Ph1.
 

maus92

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I talked to the county radio techs the other day.
Heard about the flaws in the system, won’t go into them now. The thing about TGs is if there is a phase 1 radio on a phase 2 TG, the entire tg is brought down to phase 1. Panama City beach fire uses Harris portables, has APX radios as backups and XTL radios in trucks. So the entire TG is phase1. All of the sheriff office is on Harris so they are all phase 2 but if just one Motorola radio switched over to their channel it would bring the entire TG to Ph1.
Reversion of a channel to FDMA is not a “flaw” it is by design to help localities transition older equipment to new infrastructure, and save money in the short term.
 

bravo14

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As of today the Transit (Trolley) has switched over. 5011 is Trolley Disp 5012 is the BAT. 5013-5014 unknown name. Edit.... 4051-4054 unknown names last week was hearing bunch of testing and they were teaching the users how to use the radio(s) I didn't hear nothing this week on those.
 

TinBadge

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I'll do my best to explain the problem. Before anyone states the obvious, I've tried different antennas with no change. I've programmed the scanner many times, again the same problem comes up.
Now to the problem. I use my BCD996p2 in my vehicle. It works fine when I'm sitting in the driveway of my house. When I drive to the area where I work (which is 10 miles from my house) I get an NFM on the scanner and nothing is heard. As I drive around I get intermittent or broken reception. Here's the weird part. It seems to only be in the area where I work. If I go either east or west or outside the area I work in, the scanner receives again. It's as if I work in a dead zone (it is but that's a different story).
Does anyone have a solution or a fix?
 

wprileyjr3

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I'll do my best to explain the problem. Before anyone states the obvious, I've tried different antennas with no change. I've programmed the scanner many times, again the same problem comes up.
Now to the problem. I use my BCD996p2 in my vehicle. It works fine when I'm sitting in the driveway of my house. When I drive to the area where I work (which is 10 miles from my house) I get an NFM on the scanner and nothing is heard. As I drive around I get intermittent or broken reception. Here's the weird part. It seems to only be in the area where I work. If I go either east or west or outside the area I work in, the scanner receives again. It's as if I work in a dead zone (it is but that's a different story).
Does anyone have a solution or a fix?
The problem is probably simulcast distortion. Bay county uses a simulcast system and most scanners have issues with it. It can be location dependent like you describe. This is because you have multiple towers transmitting at the same frequency. So in your driveway you may be getting signal from one tower so you receive fine. When you get to work you may be in a location where you are getting good signal from multiple towers. The issue is the signal from each tower arrives slightly off from the other and the scanner can’t decode the digital signal hence garbled or no reception at all. The fix unfortunately is to go to a SDS 100, SDS 200, Unication G4 or G5 voice pager, or SDR. Each have pros and cons. I personally have a G5 and visited Bay county in November had no issues receiving Bay county Public Safety.
 

TinBadge

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What is the "teletype" channel used for? I've never heard of such.
Teletype is used to convey information, ie. warrants checks, drivers license information etc. It's used to keep the main channel free for more important radio traffic.

The problem is probably simulcast distortion. Bay county uses a simulcast system and most scanners have issues with it. It can be location dependent like you describe. This is because you have multiple towers transmitting at the same frequency. So in your driveway you may be getting signal from one tower so you receive fine. When you get to work you may be in a location where you are getting good signal from multiple towers. The issue is the signal from each tower arrives slightly off from the other and the scanner can’t decode the digital signal hence garbled or no reception at all. The fix unfortunately is to go to a SDS 100, SDS 200, Unication G4 or G5 voice pager, or SDR. Each have pros and cons. I personally have a G5 and visited Bay county in November had no issues receiving Bay county Public Safety.
I suspected that may be the problem. What if I changed the P25 wait time?

Can someone explain what " Muni Dispatch for Sfpd-Pkpd " is for me please
It's the primary dispatch channel for Springfield and Parker PD.
 
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