Baylor Dallas

[mwjones]

So with the Collin County P25 project winding down, I shifted my DSDPlus instance over to Baylor for a listen the last few days, just to see if there's any signs of life. I happened to catch traffic on Talkgroup 101 on the Plano site, which appears to be two radio techs doing some chit-chat about reception in various places, roaming across various sites, etc. (one of them was at one point at Dallas, and I also heard someone say they were affiliating to All Saints in Fort Worth.

The interesting tidbit came late this evening when the two were talking, and one mentioned having to move stuff around at Waxahachie to get the cabinet installed. So to me that is a sign that Waxahachie is still not online yet, but their conversation said its supposed to happen tomorrow or Friday, so we may see it on the air soon.

A couple of tidbits to note:

• Listening in on the SDS200, the radio did a good job trunk tracking, even with the LCN's set to '0', so the dynamic allocation works on it (and presumably the SDS100 as well). Each time the techs keyed up it rotated the channel, so the radio has to get back to the control channel to see where that talkgroup is keying up next.
• The neighbor lists on most sites are no longer being broadcast like they had previously. Don't know if this is intentional or not, but from listening to the radio techs the radios obviously have a channel plan in them that they can follow, neighbor list or not.

 

[hiegtx]

So with the Collin County P25 project winding down, I shifted my DSDPlus instance over to Baylor for a listen the last few days, just to see if there's any signs of life. I happened to catch traffic on Talkgroup 101 on the Plano site, which appears to be two radio techs doing some chit-chat about reception in various places, roaming across various sites, etc. (one of them was at one point at Dallas, and I also heard someone say they were affiliating to All Saints in Fort Worth.

The interesting tidbit came late this evening when the two were talking, and one mentioned having to move stuff around at Waxahachie to get the cabinet installed. So to me that is a sign that Waxahachie is still not online yet, but their conversation said its supposed to happen tomorrow or Friday, so we may see it on the air soon.

A couple of tidbits to note:

• Listening in on the SDS200, the radio did a good job trunk tracking, even with the LCN's set to '0', so the dynamic allocation works on it (and presumably the SDS100 as well). Each time the techs keyed up it rotated the channel, so the radio has to get back to the control channel to see where that talkgroup is keying up next.
• The neighbor lists on most sites are no longer being broadcast like they had previously. Don't know if this is intentional or not, but from listening to the radio techs the radios obviously have a channel plan in them that they can follow, neighbor list or not.

I also caught a few ‘radio check’ calls on TGID 101, from the Dallas site the other day. Periodically I’ve checked for activity on Waxahachie, but so nothing.

 

[mwjones]

Haven't visited this system in a while, and was over near Fort Worth today and picked up some conversations on Talk Group 2010 on the Fort Worth site, so there may be actual usage in some hospitals now.

 

[hiegtx]

I spent a couple of hours in Ellis County this past Sunday, trying to get some video of the UP steam locomotive "Big Boy", as he went through Midlothian, Waxahachie, and Ennis, stopping briefly in each city. While I was down there, within ten miles or so of Baylor-Waxahachie, I set up a Discovery session to try and capture any active TGIDs on the NXDN system. Over a period of about two hours, I did not capture any voice activity. Either they had laryngitis, or were not actively using the system at that time.

 

[mwjones]

I spent a couple of hours in Ellis County this past Sunday, trying to get some video of the UP steam locomotive "Big Boy", as he went through Midlothian, Waxahachie, and Ennis, stopping briefly in each city. While I was down there, within ten miles or so of Baylor-Waxahachie, I set up a Discovery session to try and capture any active TGIDs on the NXDN system. Over a period of about two hours, I did not capture any voice activity. Either they had laryngitis, or were not actively using the system at that time.

Is Waxahachie even on the air? I haven't been down that way for a while, and last time I checked the Dallas site it was not showing it as a neighbor yet.

May have to get down that way again and see if DSDPlus shows anything.

 

[hiegtx]

Is Waxahachie even on the air? I haven't been down that way for a while, and last time I checked the Dallas site it was not showing it as a neighbor yet.

May have to get down that way again and see if DSDPlus shows anything.

All I saw was a couple of infrequent, very brief "blips" of the signal strength for the site on my 436HP. My guess is that it is not in use, and for that matter, the 'blips' could have come from a different transmitter. in the "intermod capital of North Texas", Cedar Hill. Once in a while, I get an intermittent 'hit' on one of the Baylor Waxahachie site frequencies, but it's probably not really them. Got one 'hit' last month on 453.725. Probably a bogus hit, since that is an active frequency on one of the UTSW systems. The ProScan log did not capture any RAN data, so it was probably false, as far as Waxahachie goes.

But at least I got a nice video clip of the steam train.

 

[mwjones]

All I saw was a couple of infrequent, very brief "blips" of the signal strength for the site on my 436HP. My guess is that it is not in use, and for that matter, the 'blips' could have come from a different transmitter. in the "intermod capital of North Texas", Cedar Hill. Once in a while, I get an intermittent 'hit' on one of the Baylor Waxahachie site frequencies, but it's probably not really them. Got one 'hit' last month on 453.725. Probably a bogus hit, since that is an active frequency on one of the UTSW systems. The ProScan log did not capture any RAN data, so it was probably false, as far as Waxahachie goes.

But at least I got a nice video clip of the steam train.

They supposedly still have the LTR Net up and running at several sites, including Waxahachie, so that might have been what you picked up. I've been monitoring Plano, and for a while Grapevine the last couple of days, and there doesn't seem to be much use yet (I have a bunch of recordings of TG 101, but haven't listened to them yet), and the power blips today during the storm sent my whole receiver rig into a fit, requiring most of the DSDPlus components to be restarted when I got done with work and had time to troubleshoot (the computer is on battery backup, but the 4 way powered signal splitter feeding the SDR Radios is not, and when it cycled may have overloaded the receivers when it came back online, since they were mostly deaf after the power stabilized until I reset them and the apps)

 

[hiegtx]

They supposedly still have the LTR Net up and running at several sites, including Waxahachie, so that might have been what you picked up. I've been monitoring Plano, and for a while Grapevine the last couple of days, and there doesn't seem to be much use yet (I have a bunch of recordings of TG 101, but haven't listened to them yet), and the power blips today during the storm sent my whole receiver rig into a fit, requiring most of the DSDPlus components to be restarted when I got done with work and had time to troubleshoot (the computer is on battery backup, but the 4 way powered signal splitter feeding the SDR Radios is not, and when it cycled may have overloaded the receivers when it came back online, since they were mostly deaf after the power stabilized until I reset them and the apps)

You're probably right. Fairly regularly, I go have lunch with a former co-worker & longtime friend who lives in Grapevine. Several times, when visiting her, I've parked a scanner on Baylor Grapevine, but don't get usable results. I may need to leave one of the 436HPs with her for a few days, set for a Discovery session on the site, & see if it detects anything.

 

[hiegtx]

While none of the scanners will correctly follow a LTR Passport system, I could program the frequencies to check for voice traffic. That's how I, sort of, followed CareFlite when they were on that system type, before they moved to DMR on the Megahertz system.

 

[mwjones]

Been monitoring the Plano site on the new system for the last few weeks, and I have a suspicion that TG 101 is Security for the main Hospital in Dallas, and 2010 is the Main Hospital's Engineering (obviously both have radios affiliating with Plano for them to show up there). Has anyone else been able to confirm?

I'm going to try and get back down Waxahachie way again soon, so I'll see if the NXDN site is up yet. I'll also in my travels check the LTR Net with SDRTrunk and the main Hospital's Moto system to see if its still alive and kicking.

 

[hiegtx]

Been monitoring the Plano site on the new system for the last few weeks, and I have a suspicion that TG 101 is Security for the main Hospital in Dallas, and 2010 is the Main Hospital's Engineering (obviously both have radios affiliating with Plano for them to show up there). Has anyone else been able to confirm?

I'm going to try and get back down Waxahachie way again soon, so I'll see if the NXDN site is up yet. I'll also in my travels check the LTR Net with SDRTrunk and the main Hospital's Moto system to see if its still alive and kicking.

I'm also seeing TGIDs 101, as well as 2010, come up on frequencies other than just Dallas. One comment, I think it was on 2010, someone was asked if he had check the operation of something at Waxahachie. I did not hear activity on the Waxahachie site when I spent time in Ellis County to get a short video clip of the Big Boy steam engine. Where I was parked was maybe 8 or 10 miles east of the hospital campus, with no hills in the signal path.

 

[favin]

Waxahachie site 12 online - confirmed/submitted.

;Baylor Waxahachie
NEXEDGE48, 74, 12, 17048, 453.275, 453.275, 0
NEXEDGE48, 74, 12, 17092, 453.4125, 453.4125, 0
NEXEDGE48, 74, 12, 17156, 453.6125, 453.6125, 0
NEXEDGE48, 74, 12, 17200, 453.750, 453.750, 0
NEXEDGE48, 74, 12, 17224, 453.825, 453.825, 0
NEXEDGE48, 74, 12, 17264, 453.950, 453.950, 0

 

[mwjones]

Waxahachie site 12 online - confirmed/submitted.

;Baylor Waxahachie
NEXEDGE48, 74, 12, 17048, 453.275, 453.275, 0
NEXEDGE48, 74, 12, 17092, 453.4125, 453.4125, 0
NEXEDGE48, 74, 12, 17156, 453.6125, 453.6125, 0
NEXEDGE48, 74, 12, 17200, 453.750, 453.750, 0
NEXEDGE48, 74, 12, 17224, 453.825, 453.825, 0
NEXEDGE48, 74, 12, 17264, 453.950, 453.950, 0

I was planning on going down there today as part of another effort, and I was able to confirm what you posted. What I find interesting is there's no neighbor list, compared to the other sites, so either that's a misconfiguration, or they aren't going to be doing much roaming (although this week I did see a radio come up with an OTA ID of "WAX 01" while monitoring Plano.

While I was on my excursion, I also looked at the LTR Passport system, and it is still active at a number of the hospitals (I actually heard the Dallas hospital security using it when downtown), and while I didn't hear any traffic on it, the Moto system at the Dallas hospital is still up.

So all that remains are the four licensed sites in the Austin area, anyone from that region want to check it out?

Austin Oak Hill:

FCC Callsign WREX507 (Baylor Scott & White Health - Austin Oak Hill)

FCC Callsign WREX507 (Baylor Scott & White Health - Austin Oak Hill)

www.radioreference.com

Buda:

FCC Callsign WREX480 (Baylor Scott & White Health - Buda)

FCC Callsign WREX480 (Baylor Scott & White Health - Buda)

www.radioreference.com

Marble Falls:

FCC Callsign WQUQ809 (BAYLOR SCOTT & WHITE HEALTH MARBLE FALLS)

FCC Callsign WQUQ809 (BAYLOR SCOTT & WHITE HEALTH MARBLE FALLS)

www.radioreference.com

Pflugerville:

FCC Callsign WRKM991 (Baylor Scott & White Health - Pflugerville)

FCC Callsign WRKM991 (Baylor Scott & White Health - Pflugerville)

www.radioreference.com

 

[favin]

Talkgroups showing up on the Waxahachie site.

; Baylor Wax

NEXEDGE48, 74, 100, 50, Normal, 6, 2021/09/15 9:19, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 101, 50, Normal, 194, 2021/09/16 15:25, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 102, 50, Normal, 32, 2021/09/15 11:12, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 103, 50, Normal, 25, 2021/09/15 11:52, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 104, 50, Normal, 16, 2021/09/15 21:51, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 105, 50, Normal, 18, 2021/09/15 9:23, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 106, 50, Normal, 24, 2021/09/15 10:31, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 200, 50, Normal, 4, 2021/09/15 9:19, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 201, 50, Normal, 12, 2021/09/16 10:25, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 203, 50, Normal, 2, 2021/09/15 7:51, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 204, 50, Normal, 27, 2021/09/15 11:51, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 205, 50, Normal, 25, 2021/09/16 13:22, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 206, 50, Normal, 8, 2021/09/16 15:39, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 1001, 50, Normal, 45, 2021/09/16 1:27, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 1002, 50, Normal, 1, 2021/09/15 9:49, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 2000, 50, Normal, 1, 2021/09/03 9:27, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 2001, 50, Normal, 34, 2021/09/16 14:30, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 2003, 50, Normal, 2, 2021/09/03 14:35, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 2004, 50, Normal, 3, 2021/09/15 14:45, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 2005, 50, Normal, 5, 2021/09/16 15:16, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 2006, 50, Normal, 1, 2021/09/16 15:16, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 2008, 50, Normal, 5, 2021/09/03 11:10, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 2009, 50, Normal, 40, 2021/09/16 14:57, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 2010, 50, Normal, 734, 2021/09/16 15:58, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 2501, 50, Normal, 24, 2021/09/16 15:49, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 3000, 50, Normal, 1, 2021/09/03 9:27, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 3001, 50, Normal, 80, 2021/09/16 14:10, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 3002, 50, Normal, 35, 2021/09/16 15:18, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 3003, 50, Normal, 2, 2021/09/15 14:45, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 3004, 50, Normal, 95, 2021/09/16 14:10, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 3005, 50, Normal, 64, 2021/09/16 14:10, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 3006, 50, Normal, 29, 2021/09/16 14:10, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 3007, 50, Normal, 6, 2021/09/16 8:16, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 4004, 50, Normal, 4, 2021/09/15 8:16, ""
NEXEDGE48, 74, 5006, 50, Normal, 10, 2021/09/16 14:41, ""

 

[mwjones]

Talkgroups showing up on the Waxahachie site.

; Baylor Wax

That looks like the same ones that I'm seeing on the Plano site. I've got a few identified, but I also still have about a week's worth of recordings to go through to see if I can identify any more.

 

[mwjones]

Finally got around to listening to over 90 minutes of recordings from the Plano site. Here's what I was able to positively identify (radio techs saying what channel they're on helps a lot)

TGID MODE  ALPHA TAG        DESCRIPTION                    TAG
101 D     BSW PD 1         Police 1                       Law Dispatch
102 D     BSW PD 2         Police 2                       Law Dispatch
103 D     BSW PD 3         Police 3                       Law Dispatch
104 D     BSW PD TAC 1     Police TAC-1                   Law Tac
105 D     BSW PD TAC 2     Police TAC-2                   Law Tac
201 D     BSW Security 1   Security 1                     Security
1001 D     BSW Command 1    Command 1                      Law Talk
2001 D     BSW Fac 1        Facilities 1                   Business
3001 D     NTX Parking Svc  North Texas Parking Service    Business
3002 D     BSW Nutrition 1  Nutrition 1                    Business
3004 D     Patient Xport    Patient Transport              Business

I have submitted all of this to RRDB.

On the other hand, there's 5006, which is very active with patient/lab activities (I suspect its one hospital/floor, but I their "professional" conversations don't help).

2002-2010 is all maintenance, and 202-207 may all be various security channels, but I haven't narrowed down the specifics enough to submit.

 

[IAmSixNine]

I live about a mile from Baylor Dallas. While i have not purchased the NXDN for either of my 436 or SDS100 i am tempted to now that users are reporting Baylor PD in the clear.

 

[Motoballa]

users are reporting Baylor PD in the clear.

Let's not jinx it.. Not that they'd really have a reason to lol..

On a side note I got a new radio this week and was going through the default channels that were programmed and on one of the 800MHz channels, I was picking up what sounded like security talking, also heard what sounded like Kenwood FleetSync, can't confirm who it was but when I searched the frequency I could've sworn it says BSW and used for security purposes.

When I get home I'll put the frequency in and see what it comes back to. If I remember right it doesn't come back to this system Baylor Medical Center Dallas Trunking System, Dallas, Texas - Scanner Frequencies which uses 800MHz frequencies unless they've added more since and the DB just isn't updated to reflect it. That also wouldn't make sense why I heard FleetSync.

I don't own a scanner but I guess with the growing desire to monitor this system and other NXDN ones I may need to get one.

 

[Myles]

Visiting this weekend. I have the 002 Fort Worth programmed and getting a strong signal. Have the frequencies programmed all with LCN 0. Have not heard any activity listening exclusively on this system for several hours. Set to ID Search.
Right now I'm parked on control channel 453.36875 and getting system 74, site 2. Showing as type ND4.
Guessing this system isn't encrypted since you've been able to gather talkgroup information and techs testing unless they have since activated some manner of encryption later. Any ideas?

 

[mwjones]

Visiting this weekend. I have the 002 Fort Worth programmed and getting a strong signal. Have the frequencies programmed all with LCN 0. Have not heard any activity listening exclusively on this system for several hours. Set to ID Search.
Right now I'm parked on control channel 453.36875 and getting system 74, site 2. Showing as type ND4.
Guessing this system isn't encrypted since you've been able to gather talkgroup information and techs testing unless they have since activated some manner of encryption later. Any ideas?

Not encrypted as of today, and no encrypted talkgroups logged as of yet. The system has been pretty light on traffic this weekend. My monitoring of Site 11 (Plano) had no traffic all day yesterday, and only one conversation this AM on Police 1 around 9:45-9:50.