BCD396T - Trouble programming EDACS NAR system

[cws]

Not sure if this is the right group for this, but here's my problem.
I programmed the Oncor EDACS Narrow band system in the RR database at
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=1466
and I live in Temple, TX, so I should be getting traffic. I get none at all.
The Temple site (502), has frequency 938.4750 listed for two LCNs, 04 and 15, (assuming the logical channel number is that number preceding the frequency.) Is that an error in the database? If so, how can I find the right numbers?

Also, when I enter the frequencies directly, the 396T asks for the LCN, but if I input the system in UASD, then it does not ask for an LCN, only a frequency. What's up with that?

I can't enter the same freq on 04 and 15, since it's a duplicate freq.
I even tried entering the Belton site's freqs, since it's a few miles away, but the LCNs would conflict, since 04 is used on Temple, and Belton.

Any answers, suggestions, advice, or sympathy will be appreciated.

By the way, when I hold on 938.4750, the SID shows as 02. (I think that's the last part of '502', so is okay.)

 

[n4yek]

Not sure if this is the right group for this, but here's my problem.
I programmed the Oncor EDACS Narrow band system in the RR database at
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=1466
and I live in Temple, TX, so I should be getting traffic. I get none at all.
The Temple site (502), has frequency 938.4750 listed for two LCNs, 04 and 15, (assuming the logical channel number is that number preceding the frequency.).... Is that an error in the database? ..... If so, how can I find the right numbers?

Yep, you can't have the same freq in different LCN's on the same system. The freqs are correct for the system as it is shown in site 502, but it is in error. I would removed LCN 15 and just use LCN 4, 5, 13, and 14. If that does not work, the remove LCN 4 and put LCN 15 back into the setup.

Also, when I enter the frequencies directly, the 396T asks for the LCN, but if I input the system in UASD, then it does not ask for an LCN, only a frequency. What's up with that?

Your radio knows when you tell it you are programming an EDACS system that it needs the LCN to correctly track the system. When you are using the UASD program, you are building the system before you program the radio, so you need to know where to put your freqs. If you knew a system had a particular freq on LCN 14, you wouldn't put it on line 1 of the UASD program, you would put it on line 14.
The program isn't going to track anything so it doesn't care where you put your freqs, but the radio does so it asks for it.

 

[cws]

Yessir, Danny. I just figured out my mistake by reading the 'help' on UASD. Didn't realize that the position *was* the LCN on input. I've reprogrammed an LTR system (S&W hospital), too, that I screwed up the same way earlier today, but had not yet tested. Now, it works.

The Oncor does not yet work, with the 04 LCN. I changed it to 15, and still nothing...OH, now I see that you say use all the freqs; I have been using ONLY the control channels. Not the way to do it on these types of systems? I'll try using all of them, and see if that works...

Nope. Tried 4,5,13,14, then 5,13,14,15 and neither works. The other system (LTR) works after I corrected it, so I think there's something wrong with the freqs on this database page. I'll try to find them somewhere else, I reckon.
Thanks very much for your help, Danny!

 

[cws]

OK. I found a .usd file someone had done a while back, and he used LCN 15 for the 938.4750 control channel. I did that and listened for about an hour, and heard about 3 brief transmissions on TG 01-120, which is Waco line repair. Maybe they don't use that system as much as I thought they would. Anyway, all is fine now, I suppose.

 

[n4yek]

OK. I found a .usd file someone had done a while back, and he used LCN 15 for the 938.4750 control channel. I did that and listened for about an hour, and heard about 3 brief transmissions on TG 01-120, which is Waco line repair. Maybe they don't use that system as much as I thought they would. Anyway, all is fine now, I suppose.

Thats good to hear, yea some systems don't get used much. I have an LTR system here in my area that has very little traffic on it. You might hear a dozen transmissions on it and they are all in the daylight hours..