BCD536HP Discussion Thread

[troymail]

The DFW area doesn't have any P2 yet (that's actively used), BUT they do have LSM. I'd love to hear it on that.

Paul - more video please!

Thank you

 

[GTR8000]

The DFW area doesn't have any P2 yet (that's actively used), BUT they do have LSM. I'd love to hear it on that.

Ditto.

 

[rkm1215]

Paul, I would like to see a video of some of the analysis features such as lcn finder on ltr systems.

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[JASII]

Garmin Control Of Uniden Scanner

Garmin has some Android based Nuvi GPS units. The Garmin Nuvi 3592LM is an Android based GPS, HOWEVER, it is not currently offered for sale in the United States. What I think would be slick is if they offered a Garmin Nuvi, like the 3592LM, that could be used for:

-Android control of the Uniden BCD536HP,

-NMEA 0183 data for GPS scanning, and

-Automobile navigating

I currently have a somewhat dated Garmin Nuvi 360 and the Argent Data cable that can feed NMEA-0183 data to the Home Patrol. Of course, it is not Android based and would not be able to control a forthcoming Uniden.

Maybe I should sent Scott at Argent Data an email.

nuvi 3592LM SG/MY | On The Road | Products | Garmin Singapore

Garmin｜nüvi 3592LM

 

[KevinC]

The DFW area doesn't have any P2 yet (that's actively used), BUT they do have LSM. I'd love to hear it on that.

Or even better, send one down here and I'll post a video. We have 8 sites worth of LSM (consisting of over 60 subsites), P1 and P2 along with a plethora of A25 sites with both P1 and P2.

I'm sure users would like to hear it perform on P2 and also LSM (even simultaneously).

Or if you have any testers in the Houston area that could post a video of it in action here that would be awesome.

 

[airwolfbell222]

Two questions about this new scanner, 1. The manual says default bands for 380-400 are 12.5 trunking can that be changes to 25 AM for that portion of the milair band?

You can change the steps in the HP-1 & the 396XT, so should be the same here unlike the BC125AT which is fixed at 25 kHz steps which is a mistake and probably not get fixed because most people don't care about milair

 

[Oriley]

I use the 'line out' on my 996xt to the powered speakers in my garage. Seems this one has a USB instead. If northern MN goes phase II, will I be SOL as far as the garage set-up goes?

Thanks

 

[newsphotog]

Good lord, why is that such a big deal? Get a cheap Android tablet and mount it in your vehicle. Now (with the wifi feature) you have a remote head.

Because a lot of us that have permanent installs in our vehicles aren't too keen on keeping a tablet in the vehicle making it more attractive to thieves. And I'm not going to take it out and then put it back in like it's a detachable faceplate radio from the 90's. And I don't like hard-wiring battery-powered devices to the vehicle. Also, and this is important, tablets are WAY TOO BIG to be using as a remote head in a vehicle.

 

[troymail]

Or even better, send one down here and I'll post a video. We have 8 sites worth of LSM (consisting of over 60 subsites), P1 and P2 along with a plethora of A25 sites with both P1 and P2.

I'm sure users would like to hear it perform on P2 and also LSM (even simultaneously).

Me too, me too!

Multiple Baltimore area Phase I systems, Prince George (P2) and St. Mary's (P1), Frederick and Washington counties (P1) and the Maryland State Phase II system -- a mix of Harris and Motorola P25 - all (yes ALL) with severe LSM issues.

Let me test one out!

 

[brennank]

I use the 'line out' on my 996xt to the powered speakers in my garage. Seems this one has a USB instead. If northern MN goes phase II, will I be SOL as far as the garage set-up goes?

Thanks

Good catch on that. I am sure there is a way around that. Maybe the record out, I have used that with powered speakers. It looks like the BCD536HP has a record out, but no external speaker out.

I am also curious about how this will pan out, as I currently have a external speaker I use in my truck and I would really prefer to not replace that. If the external speaker uses the USB connection how can you use the GPS at the same time?

 

[Dafe1er]

You can bang me all you want or even call me names but the bottom line is this:

The newly listed scanners while nice, pretty and what have you do not do that much more than the PSR-800. Which came out a long time before these already DATED scanners we are now talking about.

WiFi is not needed for portability maybe for updating the database (SURE) but that would have to include a PC I am sure. It is just going to be yet another reason some will have accidents from playing with phone or tablets while in the vehicle. If you need portability that bad or really need to hear your scanner from home then you might need to look into an App for you phone which has been out for a while, or maybe picking up the handheld coming out.

I have the HP-1 along with a few other scanners that are dated. The dated units I have lasted me oh I do not know.......15+YEARS. As for the HP-1 it is a good scanner. Have had it for 2 years now. Thought this was going to bring much improvements in future models, but as we see........THERE MIGHT NOT BE ONE! I did not even hear a blip from Uniden about updates for the unit which has not had ANYTHING in a while now.

I know that getting the MOTOTRBO and NXDN seems like a far fetch for some but if we can do things with PC's and scanners tapped side by side why can we not have a scanner with it all in one metal frame?
I have heard long enough about Hardware this and software that.....But what I have not heard much of is WHY we are not getting these into our scanners. In this day in age, it is not hard for some young technically inclined person to come up with what is needed to do this.

So, if you feel the need to continue on banging me then so be it. Run out buy your new toys and WIFI away. I will be here waiting for a real NEW scanner to come into play........until then I will listen to the local Fire Department in analog since everything else around the area is MOTOTRBO and NOT fully encrypted.

 

[davidmc36]

....how can you use the GPS at the same time?

The GPS goes into the DB9 connector.

 

[davidmc36]

Hopefully that WiFi dongle plugs into the rear of the scanner......

Quote from manual:

"Make sure the Wi-Fi dongle is connected to the USB port behind the scanner"

 

[ofd8001]

No fencing. Just a lot is/was being read into things I had absolutely not commented on. I can't comment on some things (as mentioned). Others I try not to as a matter of policy: For instance, the raging debate on whether digital performance is better. It is better for me. But, you'll both better trust and be better served by reports from other users and reviewers.

Thanks Upman - I asked you to comment on the TRBO and NXDN and you did.

The response was pretty clear to me: They haven't blown off providing these formats. They are looking at whether it's possible technically or practically (cost effective for them or not driving the price up for us). If they can, they will, but they aren't about to make a promise they might not be able to fulfill or show their "hole cards" to the other players at the table.

 

[vividvisions]

Me too, me too!

Multiple Baltimore area Phase I systems, Prince George (P2) and St. Mary's (P1), Frederick and Washington counties (P1) and the Maryland State Phase II system -- a mix of Harris and Motorola P25 - all (yes ALL) with severe LSM issues.

Let me test one out!

Let this guy test one, He's right. LSM issues in Baltimore, well. SUCK. I'm interested to see (if any) improvements. This is the deciding factor on whether I will buy this or check out the new 'rival' producer that may be upcoming.

 

[pinballwiz86]

Looks great Uniden! Can't wait to read the manual. 73, Uniden!

 

[exkalibur]

Yes, N8IAA is right..For the 436/536 to work with the MotoTRBO & NXDN voice with out any problems Uniden would need to install the digital board for MotoTRBO and IDAS/NXDN card inside the scanners so anyone can listen to the local digital systems.
- Jamie (N4CYA)

You're simply wrong Jamie. TRBO and NXDN use a digital mode that these radios already have built in. The digital codec used in these two formats is the same as X2-TDMA and Phase 2 P25. The only difference is how it is transmitted over the air. This is strictly a firmware change. There are no "digtal boards" required. The "digital board" in scanners merely converts bits from the radio into audible signals. The scanner's firmware is what takes the over-the-air information and extracts the proper data to send to the demodulator.

The reality is that there is NO technical limitation in these scanners which would stop them from implementing TRBO or NXDN. That said, there very well may be legal limitations. But the radios are absolutely capable of doing it.

 

[szron]

exkalibur hit it spot on

I believe DMR is not completely open. You can't just put it in your device and sell it. While the specification is widely available but I think you have to pay up to use it in a device you want to sell.

 

[slicerwizard]

The reality is that there is NO technical limitation in these scanners which would stop them from implementing TRBO or NXDN. That said, there very well may be legal limitations. But the radios are absolutely capable of doing it.

This. The firmware programming required to support conventional NXDN and DMR reception is trivial. Logic for symbol timing/recovery, sync pattern detection, voice frame deinterleaving, error correction and AMBE demodulation is already present in the scanner's firmware. Trunk tracking could be deferred to a later firmware upgrade.

The DSD source code shows just how little it takes to detect and demodulate NXDN and DMR. And the guys that wrote DSD aren't even programmers! As others have noted, Uniden should've had this done by now. Instead, they chose to do other stuff. It's as simple as that. So be prepared to wait another year or two.

As far as legalities go, we managed to get LTR, Moto3600 and EDACS trunking in scanners, but published standards like NXDN and DMR are show stoppers? I don't think so.

 

[KD2DXF]

Neat new radio but it has alot of features that I probably would never use, such as the internal database, GPS, and WiFi. I like the 996 style radio. Would be nice to know if it has changable backlight colors...