BCD996XT still at ver. 1.04 ??

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BoxAlarm187

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There is no point in listening to a system local to you and then telling me that "it sounds fine here". That is irrelevant to me. Plenty of other Uniden excuse makers have already done that.

If you're so sick of Uniden's business practices and the poor reception quality of their products, I don't understand why you haven't sold the Uniden products you have and put that money towards a RS or GRE product?

Telling Shelleys1 that you don't care that his system sounds fine to him isn't a whole lot different than you telling us that your local system sounds like crap, is it?
 

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If you're so sick of Uniden's business practices and the poor reception quality of their products, I don't understand why you haven't sold the Uniden products you have and put that money towards a RS or GRE product?

Telling Shelleys1 that you don't care that his system sounds fine to him isn't a whole lot different than you telling us that your local system sounds like crap, is it?

The first question is a good one I have thought about quite a bit. I was a Uniden fan and actually I still like a lot of things about the 396T and 396XT. I prefer the smaller size, the construction, the DMA memory, and the systems and groups with the corresponding quick keys. I just hate the 396XT digital decoding and the lousy audio that it produces.

I am not sure how I could advertise the Unidens in good conscience. Warning: this scanner may not/ does not function correctly on simulcast systems? This scanner has intermittent lousy audio? I would already be taking a substantial monetary loss and that wouldn't help. I also have transportation issues after a stroke that prevent me from just running to the post office when I want.

Actually my reply to Shelley is consistent with what I have been saying all along. There are quite a few people here who have acceptable performance on the system they listen to. I have been asking for a way to adjust my scanner to get acceptable results as well.

Multipath distortion caused by simulcast systems varies according to system and location. If Uniden can't produce acceptable audio with the automatic P25 level adjustment in all locations for all systems, then give me back the manual P25 level adjustment that is present on my 396T. That way I can adjust my 396XT for optimum audio for my system and my location. My 396T with a manual setting of 11 has better audio than my 396XT with it's auto setting of 13.
 

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Looks like another HP-1 update coming out soon, database fix and a few tweaks.

Yeah. Uniden seems to be putting plenty of effort into tweaking the HP while putting zero effort into fixing the serious flaws of the x96 scanners. They have ceased support for the 396 and 996 family and prospective buyers should take note.
 

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I think we may loose the waiting game,

Im going to mae a new scanner purchase during income tax next month. Wonder what I'm going to buy :D
 

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Personally, if I were you, Fenix, I'd buy an HP-1. I have two of them and wouldn't buy anything else. (No doubt I'll get an earfull from one particular person on this thread for that but I don't mind...it has nothing to do with the manufacturer and everything to do with the radio!)

Shell
 
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Personally, if I were you, Fenix, I'd buy an HP-1. I have two of them and wouldn't buy anything else. (No doubt I'll get an earfull from one particular person on this thread for that but I don't mind...it has nothing to do with the manufacturer and everything to do with the radio!)

Shell

Hey Shelley, how have you been? I've not seen you around much!

I'd forgot that you are near me, do you use your HP-1's to monitor the STL City P25 system at all? If so, how does it work from your location?
I can drive down to Crestwood and the P25 system comes in fantastic on any of the Unidens from there.

Forgiving the P25 problem I have with the cities P25 system on my XT series Unidens, I'd also still recommend one of the Uniden's. As far as I'm concerned, the Unidens have far superior receivers in them.
The GRE's I own are pretty much useless here for everything but 800 MHz systems. They overload easily from the paging systems near here plus the counties signals that are broadcast from the EOC towers. I'm just down the street from the EOC.
I also own an HP-1 and I like it a lot. I prefer the 996XT though for much of my scanning needs other than the cities P25 system. I usually mirror what I'm doing with the 996XT on the HP-1 and then use the HP-1's recording feature in case I miss something. I love the record feature!

Tonight I decided to try some of the Illinois Starcom sites. I've not tried Starcom since the leaves fell from all the trees. I found that I can get one site, 3-025 or the Edwardsville site. I get a decent signal on the 996XT but nothing at all on a GRE PSR-600. It shows signal strength bars but will not decode anything. I assume the signal bars are indications of other signals from all the cell towers located all around this area.

My main interests are the county and muni police and fire in our neck of the woods. The Unidens (including the HP-1) work great for these VHF channels while the GRE's are highly susceptible to overload or desense.
Of course I hear you out there as well!

Regarding the issue with P25 systems and Uniden, the manual decode setting is something they should have left in the XT series radios. It is truly a feature that makes the radios receive a system or not as is confirmed by the older T series which has the manual setting capability.
Other than that one issue, I like the Unidens much better than the GRE's or Radio Shack clones. Without a doubt, the front ends in the Unidens are much better than the GRE's. The old GRE's like the old Radio Shack Pro-2004, 2006 for example, also had really nice front ends but GRE seems to have slipped in that area with their current models of the last few years. At least that is how I see it.
The GRE's do work ok once you get away from high RF environment such as ours but so do the Unidens.
I own several of each manufacturers current and past model scanners. Without a doubt, the Unidens are powered on about 99% of the time while the GRE's are only on 1% of the time that I'm monitoring.
Unless the fire trucks roll, then they all may come on!
For the nights I monitor a single frequency (Chesterfield mainly), I do that with an Icom R9000 as there is not much that will overload that receiver!

How is Ron F. doing? I've not talked with him in ages.

Hope this makes it as it took me about 45 minutes to get this site to open up tonight. It kept timing out or stalling on me.
I think they need to move something off the main site as I guess the live audio feeds put a big strain in the server.

I need to put the starcom 3-025 site into the HP-1, this is an very active system tonight!
The signal from this tower must improve late night as the GRE is trying to decode some of it now. The 996XT is decoding it with 0 errors though.

See Ya and glad to see you are still around here!
 

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Hey! Happy New Year!! Yes, I monitor most everything except Starcom on the HP-1s. I keep my only remaining 396XT in my personal car with a remote head but I'm probably going to switch it out one of these days with the other HP-1. The rejection and overload is royal pain on the XTs, particularly when compared to the HP-1. I tried using one of the PSRs and didn't like it at all. It could be that I'm used to the technology I've already got and it's working really well! I have no problem at all with P25 systems anywhere around the County or even with City PD. The only other time I've had some difficulty hearing a P25 system it's been with St. Charles County and I knew it was technical problem with their system.

Starcom, on the other hand, is difficult to hear because they're way powered-down (intentionally) in St. Clair Co (for sure) as well as Madison Co (I believe). (There are some strange things going on over on the East side. I'll PM you about it.) Even with the excellent antennas I have on my car and at home, I don't often pick them up. I cannot pick them up at home at all - we're in a very low-lying area and even with my Austin Ferret I can't pick them up. The only time I can pickup some of the Starcom transmissions in my personal car once I'm heading east on 64 from I-270 or east on I-44 from 141.

I'm glad you like the 996XT - I never did like mine...from day one. There are just some radios that don't "agree" with me and the 996XT was one of them! I tried, over and over, but plain and simple I just didn't like it.

Kruser, have you tried the Sentinel software? If so, do you like it? Paul (UPMan), if you read this I'm sorry - I just don't care for it. *sigh* I love the HP-1 but I have found that the ARC software works much better for me.

County PD will be moving to the trunked 800 system in a year - that will be both exciting and interesting! The new EOC/Communications Center will be finished at the same time. There will be some other changes as well but I'll filll you in on those when the time gets a little closer.

I too have had a terrible time getting onto RR!! Not sure exactly what's going on but you may be correct about the bandwidth. If that's the case then they need to dedicate a seperate server (or two) for their audio feeds!

Ron Francois is doing great! He was promoted and has been extremely busy...doesn't have any time right now to dedicate to County but I do talk to him once in a while.

OK, I've rambled...I do that all too often. Hahaa I need to get some sleep so I'm going to stop rambling! Good to hear from you and we'll catch up some more later!

Shell
 

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I just bought a 396XT.

Awesome scanner. Don't know what all the whining is about? I have a 396T as well. Another great radio.

You folk probably need more experience or help with these ? I have had no issues or any probs.

Feel free to ask if you need assistance using the new Unidens.

PS,

Scanner Master sell a great series of books/manuals called the 'Easier To Read' series and cover the 396T, XT etc. Highly recommended.
 
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Hi minskie!

I have MANY years experience with my 396XTs (as do many, if not most of the people posting on this thread). I bought my first one the day after Uniden released them. *smile* I love the scanner although it can have a problem at times with overload and rejection. I personally have never had enough of a problem for it to be a major issue for me, even in our metro area - St. Louis City/County. I've been using scanners for 40+ years and the 396XT has always been one of my favorites!

When the HP-1 was released I think most everyone knew immediately it was going to be the best Uniden had ever produced - and it is...far and above, and it keeps getting better! But I still love my 396XTs and will always have them in use somewhere - but now probably here at home. Unfortunately, my personal opinion is that the HP-1 is one of the reasons why we haven't seen any updates for the 396XT. I believe between the release of the HP-1 and the disaster in Japan, Uniden has had to focus its' priorities differently than it ever has before. Of course that's speculation on my part, but I believe there very well may be validity to it.

Technology changes and improves. I do agree with this thread that there needs to be some updates for the 396XT, particularly since Uniden is still manufacturing the radio! Because they've released what has become a very popular radio - the HP-1 - doesn't mean that they can or should ignore some problems/needed updates for another radio they're also producing and selling.

People on this thread aren't "whining" about it - they're speaking out about distinct problems which they (and I too) have encountered. It has been a VERY long time since Uniden has release ANY UPDATES for the 396XT and there are some much needed.

Shell

P.S. Some of the "easier to read" manuals, etc. that Scanner Master sells were written by users who participate here on RR and/or who participate in the various user groups and took the time and effort to put them together. Initially some were free - I don't know if any stilll are, but they did a great job putting them together and, no question, spent a significant amount of time doing so!
 

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I just bought a 396XT.

Awesome scanner. Don't know what all the whining is about? I have a 396T as well. Another great radio.

You folk probably need more experience or help with these ? I have had no issues or any probs.

Feel free to ask if you need assistance using the new Unidens.

PS,

Scanner Master sell a great series of books/manuals called the 'Easier To Read' series and cover the 396T, XT etc. Highly recommended.

Hey minskie,

The current and past 396, 996 and HP-1 are all great scanners. The XT series just have some problems mostly with simulcast P25 systems.
Nobody is whining, they are just wanting Uniden to restore a feature that was removed when the XT series replaced the T series, that is all.
Dumping 500 bucks on a new model (upgraded model) is not chump change for a lot of users. They expect (rightly so) the radio to work better than the model it replaced. I'm glad they both work well for you. Perhaps you do not live in an area with a problem simulcast system such as the users experiencing this problem do. I've taken my XT radios to those areas and yes, they work fantastic.

As far as experience, ha, I've been tuning the air waves daily since at least 1966 and much of that was with home brewed gear or gear that I had to modify myself. Do a little research and see what us older (and experienced) users had to use for equipment back in those days.
So as far as experience goes, I think I may have just a "little" bit of that.

Don't worry, you too will be there some day if you keep monitoring.

Happy Scanning!
 

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Well, I see I am in the minority. I have both the 396XT and the 996XT and love both of them. Uniden was good at firmware updates for my old 396T and I expect they will do the same for the XTs. I see very little wrong with the XTs that fall within their hardware specs. IF a firmware update does happen I would love to have the ability to togle all of the SGKs on/off. I rarely have more than 6-8 on at any time but when I use the start key to change areas then ALL of the SQKs are on and I have to manually turn off all but the few I really want to scan. Also, it would be nice if the lockouts in the scanner when I use a GPS would stay locked out when I get to the hotel room on trips. I dont want to have to put it on my PC each night to make sure I can scan the same things in the hotel as I do in the car.

I know these are small and unimportant compared to the techical suggestions that I have read in this forum but they would be nice.
 

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I just bought a 396XT.

Awesome scanner. Don't know what all the whining is about? I have a 396T as well. Another great radio.

You folk probably need more experience or help with these ? I have had no issues or any probs.

Feel free to ask if you need assistance using the new Unidens.

PS,

Scanner Master sell a great series of books/manuals called the 'Easier To Read' series and cover the 396T, XT etc. Highly recommended.

Well, maybe you can give DDan some ideas on how to receive a simulcast system to get rid of the errors when using the auto decode setting on the 396XT. Your experience with these new Uniden scanners may come in handy.
 
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