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[W4KRR]

BUTEL ARCx36Pro Bug?....

So i create Conventional system,
enter the freq's.
From the SQ MODE drop menu i select DMR..
Save.
Close ARC
launch ARC..
Open that list I saved..
all those DMR's are now P25s..


My error? Am I forgetting a step..

Happens to me also. Here is what Gommert from Butel said about it:

"You probably put the SQ Code to search and then the SQ Mode files is ignored. Because of the way the scanner stores this info it is set back to P25 when saved."

He seems to be saying that this is normal.

 

[Jay911]

BUTEL ARCx36Pro Bug?....

So i create Conventional system,
enter the freq's.
From the SQ MODE drop menu i select DMR..
Save.
Close ARC
launch ARC..
Open that list I saved..
all those DMR's are now P25s..


My error? Am I forgetting a step..

Happens to me also. Here is what Gommert from Butel said about it:

"You probably put the SQ Code to search and then the SQ Mode files is ignored. Because of the way the scanner stores this info it is set back to P25 when saved."

He seems to be saying that this is normal.

FYI - the thread on ARC536 is over here...

 

[bravo14]

I have done a test on Con+ I put all freqs in even I put the control channel I locked that out in conventional and this morning heard this and I noticed some freqs use different color codes.

 

[fourthhorseman]

fyi - the thread on arc536 is over here...

resolved & got it!

 

[theoldcop]

I've know that for 14 years and STILL asked the question...sigh. Maybe it's time to turn in my driver's license.😉

RR does NOT cull the FCC database for ANYTHING. All RR data is user-contributed.

 

[NCFireman11]

Thanks to Paul and the Uniden team for releasing the beta version to experiment with!

I'm still having a hard time following 2 different Con+ systems using the LCN finder. Hopefully when the full release comes out, someone smarter than me can write a step by step guide in the Wiki on how to successfully monitor Con+ and Cap+ systems.

 

[bearcat]

When I saved a partial LCN Finder session this morning, all the "unfound" LCNs were set to 0, so I think you can safely leave them at zero.

Oddly enough I ran the LCN finder on an 800 CAP+ system we have and it worked, however it still did not follow the conversations properly. I also took a bike ride and ran LCN finder right outside the buildings of two know UHF CAP+ systems. I was monitoring quite a bit of activity on another radio at both sites, but the LCN finder never found any LCNs. I guess we will just lay low until R3 is released.

 

[werinshades]

Oddly enough I ran the LCN finder on an 800 CAP+ system we have and it worked, however it still did not follow the conversations properly. I guess we will just lay low until R3 is released.

I can report pretty much the same result here. I've been tinkering around with LCN order since last night, and adding and eliminating frequencies from the site and finally had the "Found all LCN's 5/5" message and pressed enter. After checking the frequencies, the order is the same as I had it. Still missing conversations here and there. Also have the system running in Convential Mode in a separate system and watching talkgroups, frequencies etc. and appears to be missing some talkgroups and conversations. I did some research in the previous thread and found this:

{"Aren't the channel grants on a Connect+ system being controlled by the MotoTRBO controller? If so, then the LCN would change as it really has no predefined order nor control channel (unless I'm totally off-base here). So if that's the way it works, the Logical Channel Number doesn't matter as each radio is informed where each TGID is going next in the data stream. So there's no reason for LCN to be maintained - it just jumps to the next frequency for the next conversation and LCN is not a valid data field and could be randomized."}

Would this also apply to CAP+ systems too as it sure seems similar activity if I run LCN Finder a few times. One thing I did find in running it in convential mode is two of my frequencies are showing data and no voice, but at different times. Today it's 464.5875, yesterday it was 464.7375. One frequency 464.350 shows no activity or CAP designation despite it being licensed. I'm keeping an eye on it for DMR single channel operation.

I know the engineers are working on CAP+ and CON systems still. My opinion is they still have to master the way the data streams are handled by the scanner and that's why we're seeing odd results. We're almost there folks!!

ULS License - Industrial/Business Pool, Trunked License - WQPK636 - Southwest Airlines Company - Frequencies Summary

 

[WX4JCW]

FYI I am at a shipper picking up their mobiles on CC no problem

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[UPMan]

I am aware of LCN Finder issues. Engineers have logs and a few color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one, explaining what each one was, to be used as evidence of what the scanner is doing. We are also working on the next prerelease which should have additional improvements for both CON+ and CAP+ tracking.

 

[VA3ADP]

I am aware of LCN Finder issues. Engineers have logs and a few color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one, explaining what each one was, to be used as evidence of what the scanner is doing. We are also working on the next prerelease which should have additional improvements for both CON+ and CAP+ tracking.

What about decoding simplex transmissions from trbo radio?

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[UPMan]

Simplex Direct (not through a repeater) is usually working (if you follow the direction to set P25 Decode to Manual and modulation to FM) in our testing. Both DSD+ (fed by SDR# from HackRF, SDRPlay or RTL-SDR) are showing similar performance. Sometimes it either never syncs to the incoming direct simplex or syncs late. Sometimes it hits it spot on.

I'd like to see it do better (I'd like the SDR receivers do better, as well), but at this point our focus is on the DMR (repeater out), and MotoTRBO modes.

 

[werinshades]

I am aware of LCN Finder issues. Engineers have logs and a few color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one, explaining what each one was, to be used as evidence of what the scanner is doing. We are also working on the next prerelease which should have additional improvements for both CON+ and CAP+ tracking.

Haha...sounds like my notes here! Thanks Paul, I'm very happy with how this is going so far. I'm not trying to be critical, hoping others who are experiencing similar issues know it's not just them.

On a positive note, just programmed a CON+ system on the UHF-T band via LCN Tracker and it's working very well. That was a breeze after following your instructions...thanks.

 

[bearcat]

I can report pretty much the same result here. I've been tinkering around with LCN order since last night, and adding and eliminating frequencies from the site and finally had the "Found all LCN's 5/5" message and pressed enter. After checking the frequencies, the order is the same as I had it. Still missing conversations here and there. Also have the system running in Convential Mode in a separate system and watching talkgroups, frequencies etc. and appears to be missing some talkgroups and conversations. I did some research in the previous thread and found this:

{"Aren't the channel grants on a Connect+ system being controlled by the MotoTRBO controller? If so, then the LCN would change as it really has no predefined order nor control channel (unless I'm totally off-base here). So if that's the way it works, the Logical Channel Number doesn't matter as each radio is informed where each TGID is going next in the data stream. So there's no reason for LCN to be maintained - it just jumps to the next frequency for the next conversation and LCN is not a valid data field and could be randomized."}

Would this also apply to CAP+ systems too as it sure seems similar activity if I run LCN Finder a few times. One thing I did find in running it in convential mode is two of my frequencies are showing data and no voice, but at different times. Today it's 464.5875, yesterday it was 464.7375. One frequency 464.350 shows no activity or CAP designation despite it being licensed. I'm keeping an eye on it for DMR single channel operation.

I know the engineers are working on CAP+ and CON systems still. My opinion is they still have to master the way the data streams are handled by the scanner and that's why we're seeing odd results. We're almost there folks!!

ULS License - Industrial/Business Pool, Trunked License - WQPK636 - Southwest Airlines Company - Frequencies Summary

Unless I am not totally understanding your post. I think LCN is required so the repeaters and the subscribers units know what freq to go to. I think it works like LTR, EDACS and P25 implicit trunking. The radios (mobiles/HTs) have the freqs for the system loaded into the radio in the correct order. I am not sure how the radio would know what freq (LCN#) to goto to follow the conversation. Basically the trunking control says "I have a call on TG1 - LCN1" so that subscriber radio knows what to do with it. That is my understanding I may be wrong.

 

[troymail]

I am aware of LCN Finder issues. Engineers have logs and a few color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one, explaining what each one was, to be used as evidence of what the scanner is doing. We are also working on the next prerelease which should have additional improvements for both CON+ and CAP+ tracking.

"You can get anything you want...."

 

[werinshades]

Unless I am not totally understanding your post. I think LCN is required so the repeaters and the subscribers units know what freq to go to. I think it works like LTR, EDACS and P25 implicit trunking. The radios (mobiles/HTs) have the freqs for the system loaded into the radio in the correct order. I am not sure how the radio would know what freq (LCN#) to goto to follow the conversation. Basically the trunking control says "I have a call on TG1 - LCN1" so that subscriber radio knows what to do with it. That is my understanding I may be wrong.

It was a post I found from the first release and was wondering if it applied to our findings.

 

[UPMan]

Maybe next time I should quote the Rolling Stones.

But if you try sometimes, you just might find...

 

[WX4JCW]

What about decoding simplex transmissions from trbo radio?

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I picked up simplex today

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[WX4JCW]

Maybe next time I should quote the Rolling Stones.

But if you try sometimes, you just might find...

Bahaha

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[mrkelso]

and a few color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one, explaining what each one was, to be used as evidence of what the scanner is doing.
Alice put a scanner in the restaurant?