Bell County EDACS Talkgroups

[SCPD]

Two unidentified talkgroups I've seen are 1185 and 1186.

1185 is a mystery because most of units are digital (may or may not be encrypted). However, one of the units (probably a dispatcher) is analog.

Would someone please program this ID into their scanner and try to identify the group for us?

Likewise for 1186.

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6

 

[cws]

Is there any way you could convert those to AFS format? My BCD396T uses AFS.

 

[loumaag]

Hmm, it seems the links to converters we had in the Wiki are dead, so assuming I remember how to do this, I think the following are valid:

1185 = 9-041
1186 = 9-042
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You can verify that in the radio by changing the display, the radio will take either decimal or AFS.

 

[texasemt13]

1185 is a mystery because most of units are digital (may or may not be encrypted). However, one of the units (probably a dispatcher) is analog.

At the risk of starting another PV storm in this thread (and the other current Bell County thread discussing PV)...

Unitrunker, you're saying that 1185 is a ProVoice talkgroup and that the dispatcher is responding in analog correct?

Could we be seeing in Bell County what we've seen in San Antonio? In SA we're seeing links between disparate EDACS systems (LO and SA) and P25 systems through the LCRA VIDA switch, allowing all the LCRA subscribers (in analog EDACS and P25 modes) to communicate to Live Oak EDACS (analog) and San Antonio EDACS (ProVoice). Could this possibly be happening further north in Bell County also?

 

[SCPD]

Don't know.

 

[cws]

I listened for a while this morning, and saw 9-041 a lot, and 9-042 at least once. I couldn't understand much (my bad hearing, probably), but I figure 041 is a dispatch associated with Temple, because I heard her mention an address that occurs locally only in Temple.

 

[SCPD]

Thanks cws! Once you feel reasonably certain, please submit this. Was it PD, FD, EMS?

 

[Ensnared]

Bell County Monitoring

Recently, I made a trip to Killeen, Texas. During my visit, I heard: Bell County LE, Main; Bell County LE East, Bell County, LE West, and several Killeen, PD TG's including dispatch; however, no Temple, Texas transmissions were intercepted, zero. I also moved over to an active control channel, 769.10625; however, I suspect there are more in the system. Therefore, I'm going to load all of these frequencies into my GRE PSR 500 & see what happens:

ULS License - Trunked Public Safety 700 MHz License - WQON926 - BELL, COUNTY OF - Frequencies Summary


Here is something that I found interesting on the news:

City officials hope to revitalize east Temple - KXXV-TV News Channel 25 - Central Texas News and Weather for Waco, Temple, Killeen |

What motive would the police have for migrating to a more secure type of radio system? When everyone else in the county is making do with EDACS, Temple goes a different direction. I am going to stand back and see what happens.

I suppose it would be important to understand how power, money, & influence operate in each of these two cities & who is more talented at getting what they want from necessary resources.

I don't know whether Bell County will follow with migration to a ProVoice system, but it has been rumored for quite some time. I don't know if their delay is related to financial resources or being next in line to convert.

If you have police communications out of the reach of most criminals, you certainly have the upper hand on influencing criminal activity. Analog trunking scanners are fairly cheap to the consumer; however, a ProVoice interception setup requires more effort & equipment. I'm sure that "crooks" have listened to Temple PD on EDACS.

When an area of town is cleaned up, regarding the criminal element, revitalization can occur. Fort Worth, Texas used to be a pretty rough place downtown until developers got involved. After revitalization, property values climbed, I believe. Sometimes, long-term residents in a revitalized area have to move out of the area due to increased expenditures. This is particularly true if developers are involved. In fact, I would imagine that a major part of re-vitalization involves cleaning up criminal activity.

So, again, how would a more secure radio system benefit Temple, Texas. Did they model their behavior after one of their neighbors, Georgetown, Texas?

Please, note, I am not opposed to revitalization projects when they are done right.

Of course, time will certainly tell.

 

[StatuSChecKa]

Thanks for commenting on this thread.
TPD converted months before there was even a story about revitalizing east site (money should go elsewhere IMO). So are you saying that They are hiding police communication so they can have the upper hand in taking out criminals so they can clean up the city. Seems like a bit overkill. Maybe encrypt a tac channel and give it to the task force while they are on duty out East. If there is a traffic stop in West Temple why encrypt that?

This is so frustrating. I havnt touched my GRE500 in 3 weeks cause Killeen has too much going on and its almost not fun to listen to unless its after 10pm.

 

[Ensnared]

Waco & Obscure Communications

Thanks for commenting on this thread.
TPD converted months before there was even a story about revitalizing east site (money should go elsewhere IMO). So are you saying that They are hiding police communication so they can have the upper hand in taking out criminals so they can clean up the city. Seems like a bit overkill. Maybe encrypt a tac channel and give it to the task force while they are on duty out East. If there is a traffic stop in West Temple why encrypt that?

This is so frustrating. I havnt touched my GRE500 in 3 weeks cause Killeen has too much going on and its almost not fun to listen to unless its after 10pm.

No, I am not saying they "are" doing anything. I was making a statement based on speculation, not fact.

Overkill? I have a different opinion based on some of the things I've monitored here in Waco on a "street crimes." Due to the sensitive nature of this information, I won't be posting it in this forum. But, Waco certainly has an incentive to clean up the area surrounding the proposed football stadium.

At present, Waco LE use an uncommon radio system which is not part of the common trunking system. The "average" scanner listener (if such exists) is seemingly unaware of these TG's based on what I've heard from other listeners. If the county migrates to this radio system, as proposed, increased encryption might be part of that operation. But, since I don't have a crystal ball, I don't really know what might happen.

I don't see Temple being any different than Waco regarding their desire to put radio communications out of the hands of offenders. Let's hope this does not happen.

Encryption is fairly widespread and certainly growing in this area.

Yesterday, I actually heard Temple PD talking Temple Dispatch, but is was very brief. The officer was talking about his other HH radio at the time. So, this might have been related to checking out transmissions, I don't know.