Border Patrol repeater frequency

[cjrjr507]

Hi Everyone!
I'm new here on this site and wanted to let you know if you live anywhere around eastport, Id.
there's an border patrol repeater on 170.7750, unencrypted, in the clear. It's in Bonner's Ferry, ID. It's a dispatch center from the sounds of it. I live in northwest, Mt. and the signal comes in loud and clear. Have not found any tactical frequencies yet. My scanner does not have codes. Too old.

cjrjr507

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[BC_Scan]

Good catch . according to Police call that is a "classified use" fx , not the normal border freq's we hear, I am fairly certain it is not the Canadian side as we use UHF around these parts. When I go to the Kootenays this Easter I will plug it in and listen and double check on our brothers on the Canadian side in Kingsgate.

 

[Gilligan]

according to Police call that is a "classified use" fx , not the normal border freq's we hear

The Master Frequency File says this is a normal Border Patrol freq and that there are actually quite a few in the 170 range. Maybe keep searching and you just might find some more. Also around 163.

 

[cjrjr507]

Yes, and I think I found the car to car and car to dispatch frequency and maybe the tactical encrypted frequency; 163.7250; comes in kind real staticey sometimes and sometimes good, the other frequency is at 169.5250; it's digital, it comes in good. Have been searching the uhf bands but have not found anything yet. The spokane sector has stations in eureka and whitefish too. will keep you posted. Lots of activity on the digital channel.
Wish I could here it, scanner is too old; BC890XLT. I want a BCD996T, ooh! 6000 channels, yes!

 

[cjrjr507]

Hi
Yeah, you should be able to hear it. The car to car freq is 163.7250; unencrypted and I think i found the encrypted tactical freq at 169.5250; it's digital, squeak squeak squeak, ha! My scanner's too old. Nooooooo. Probably could not get it anyways as they change the encryption keys all the time. Oh well.

 

[Gilligan]

Here are a couple of things that may help you out.

1) The digital you are referring to is either going to be P25 digital (monitorable w/ a digital capable scanner like the 996T) or DES encryption. You can't monitor DES. You can recognize DES cause it sounds like open squelch with a slight hiss at the end. P25 sounds more like a machine gun.

2) The 163.725 is probably not car-to-car. It may not be as clear because the repeater may be farther away or not as powerful. Or maybe just not good reception for your area. But car-to-car freqs are much harder to find and you usually can only hear one side of the conversation unless both units are very close. I think that freq is actually more commonly found to be a repeater anyway. Also, car-to-car is often on the same freq as the repeater but is just talkaround, meaning that they talk around the repeater. They don't use the repeater input but talk straight to each other on the repeater output freq. The US Marshals do this quite often and many police departments do as well.

3) I doubt there is such a thing as a "car-to-dispatch" frequency. That is older technology like on the old highway patrol low-band radios and stuff. It would be considered a repeater input currently and again, you wouldn't be able to hear it very well cause it's just the mobiles transmitting (like car-to-car).

Hope that helps.

 

[cjrjr507]

Thanks, the signal is DES the way you describe it. Found another digital freq at 165.9875 but it sounds better at 165.9900. Might be a customs freq. it's DES too. Also have a voice freq. at 165.9125, I'm recording it so I can catch who the heck it is hopefully.
These Freq's are not listed on my customs list so i'll just have too keep listening until I figure out who it is. As for the car to car freq. I am was just assuming it was car to car but it could portable to portable as far as i know. But they are talking to the dispatch cause I can here them when they are reporting in. Will let you know if I find any more freq's.
Thanks again for the info. 165.9875 is not des, it's otar. The other digtal freq. is otar too. Oh, I heard some voices on that 165.9125 and it was weird sounding. It sounds like it's frequency hopping somehow, I heard somebody say fox then get some scritchy noises then another fox and something else then some more scritchy noises, like I'm catching bits and pieces of conversation. Almost like their scrambling it somehow. Trunking? or some kind of spread spectrum. hmmmm. I know the 800 mhz band uses trunking. Could be the signal cutting in and out maybe. I don't know.

 

[Gilligan]

If you have a tone-capable scanner, set it to Tone Search and see if you can match a tone with these freqs. Tones are a great way of ID'ing agencies. For example, 100.0 is usually customs/border, 156.7 is often DEA, 167.9 is almost always FBI, etc.

Here's some pages that might help you out:
Look at this section: PL-Tone/Government Agency on this page:
http://myweb.accessus.net/~090/scan/fedfreq.html

and http://www.kb9ukd.com/digital/ for digital audio samples

 

[cjrjr507]

Hi Gilligan
yeah, I know about pl tones. My scanner does have ctcss but it takes a ctcss board which I do not have yet, but they are not that expensive. I just never got around to getting one. Oh, I picked up something on 167.8375, and it sounded like someone was about to say something then they changed their mind, hmmmm.
Have not heard anything since, but will keep listening.

 

[cjrjr507]

Hi Gilligan
I listened to those digital audio samples and when I got to the otar sample that is exactly the sound I hearing. And I printed out those pl tones for the different agencies. Thanks for the sites.

 

[cjrjr507]

Hi all
That 165.9125 Freq is BATF out of Idaho. Possible Ch 5 ops or F-09 ops. Coming in good now.

 

[cjrjr507]

Also found 163.6250, border patrol; the nationwide primary channel out of boundary county, id. yes! I love searching.