Bossier Parish Public Safety Reband?

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Noticed that for the past few weeks the published freqs/TGIDs for Bossier City Police/Fire/EMS no longer have traffic. Has Bossier Parish/City Rebanded?

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Rebanding was concluded in 2021 so its very doubtfull.
A check of the lwin trunked page live audio shows them active at 8.35 am. If your still not hearing them check your antenna connection. Recheck the frequencies , Could have roatated to another control channel . according to the database they 3 sites in bossier parrish . its might be that the site you use is down . Or they could be trying encryption .
 

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Funny story...

After I saw this post, I cut my SDR on as I was in Bossier City for work. Sheriffs Office is still on LWIN, Parish Fire/EMS is still on their DMR Conventional system, City Fire showed up on LWIN (encrypted as expected). Did not hear BCPD..... and the Bossier City site is offline.

They showed up on the City's 800mhz P25 system. Bossier City Public Works (Project 25) Trunking System, Bossier City, Louisiana using tg 519. Phase 1 currently on all channels.

I assume all city services, public works and public safety will be migrating over to that system? Only one way to find out. I picked up data and audio so I need to go through it to find out exactly what's going on. If you are local @jphill40692 give it a listen and see what you can find. I'm usually only in Bossier for work and I'm not always able to monitor. The city system needs updating already, I'll do what I can when I'm able.

As stated above, Bossier City LWIN is down. They are / were located at the pd hq so this may be related to switching over to the city system? idk
 

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I'll be using this thread as an update for Bossier City Public Safety shifting from LWIN to the City System....


Confirmed 519 is Bossier City Police - Dispatch

submitting this as well as a name change, NAC, and info as we speak

Groups Data as follows:
P25, BEE00.AAB, 39, 1, Normal, 11, 2024/08/30 14:03, "Utilities Dispatch?"
P25, BEE00.AAB, 519, 1, Normal, 22, 2024/08/30 14:11, "BCPD Dispatch"
P25, BEE00.AAB, 523, 1, Normal, 10, 2024/08/30 14:11, ""
P25, BEE00.AAB, 543, 1, Normal, 0, 2024/08/30 14:01, ""

Edit: This is also a simulcast system. 523 is encrypted as most likely City Fire/EMS but not confirmed. All TG's have been Phase 1 FDMA.
 
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I'll be using this thread as an update for Bossier City Public Safety shifting from LWIN to the City System....


Confirmed 519 is Bossier City Police - Dispatch

submitting this as well as a name change, NAC, and info as we speak

Groups Data as follows:


Edit: This is also a simulcast system. 523 is encrypted as most likely City Fire/EMS but not confirmed. All TG's have been Phase 1 FDMA.
Thank you for chasing this down! So far on 519 I only get outbound dispatch transmissions. No replies. Haven't heard traffic on 523 or 543.
 

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I heard 2-way comms Friday. Monitored for a few hours. Only picked up 519 with voice.

This must be very recent. Also, have you checked LWIN to see if any more city public safety channels are missing? Sentell and Shreveport sites we're fine Friday.
 

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I have Shreveport all working fine as listed, including all PD/Sherriff, Fire, & EMS (incl. EMS to hospitals).
 
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Including Bossier City PD on LWIN? They were NOT on LWIN Friday when I monitored. Just the Bossier City P25 system

That’s what I’m curious about. LWIN and City P25 should be monitored (in theory) to figure out what’s going on. Patch, migration, etc..
 

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Negative. Sorry for the confusion.

I only have Shreveport working. I have the freqs and TGs as listed at Caddo Parish Trunking System, Shreveport, Louisiana .

I'm new to this, but I *think* that's S'port's own P25 Phase II, not part of LWIN. It all works (Police, Sherriff, Fire, EMS, including all the Tac and Talk channels).

On Bossier City, I programmed and listened for a couple of hours today on the city's P25 Phase I TG 519. I only heard a couple of outbound calls from dispatch, and never heard any replies. I heard one patrol car calling in to dispatch on that TG, but dispatch never answered him and he never attempted a 2nd contact. Don't know what to make of it. They're clearly communicating on something somewhere.
 

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So I upload the calls site for LWIN Bossier tower with RR and Broadcastify and I have been experiencing over the past couple weeks a loss of broadcast signal randomly and other times the signal is there but not correct as it won’t lock onto the control channel. I have been swapping over to the Shreveport LWIN tower and still pickup BC traffic but overall the TG quantity seen/heard is down per day.
 

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You’re correct

Shreveport city and Caddo Parish operate on their own P25 Phase 2 system. However there is a LWIN site in Shreveport. So it will cover what is lost by Bossier City not being online. For LWIN.

Also due to the Broadcastify picking up BCPD on LWIN, they have not “migrated” to the Bossier City P25 system. At least not yet.

Could just be patched for now. Could be patched forever. I guess we will just have to monitor and see what we find. Thanks for the inputs. I’ll monitor when I’m in town and run SDR.
 

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This morning I’m picking up LWIN Bossier City site online. BCPD on LWIN. Nothing on Bossier City P25 system AAB.

I’ll check SDR later but. Seems to be different every day lol.
 

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I got the antennas re arranged with the sdr's and I am not picking any audio up on the LWIN Bossier City tower CC. You can see the talk groups activating etc but hear no audio. Swap it to LWIN Shreveport Tower and you hear just fine. Also getting no traffic on Bossier City P25 system but set it to record all talk groups. I can post some log data if anyone thinks it would help as it spams pretty fast on the LWIN CC's
 

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I got the antennas re arranged with the sdr's and I am not picking any audio up on the LWIN Bossier City tower CC. You can see the talk groups activating etc but hear no audio. Swap it to LWIN Shreveport Tower and you hear just fine. Also getting no traffic on Bossier City P25 system but set it to record all talk groups. I can post some log data if anyone thinks it would help as it spams pretty fast on the LWIN CC's

To be honest, I've always noticed a slight lack of decode quality with the LWIN Bossier City site. I don't know if it is interference or what. I've tried it north south and east. It's on the pd hq. The LWIN Shreveport site is high on a large tower with other system CC's. This may be all made up of course, but I've never relied on Bossier City LWIN for pure data because of it.

Post the log! I'm curious as to seeing TG 519 connections as well as other 500's (especially the encrypted 523).
 

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TG 521 sounds like BCPD Disp 2 (or 3) but need confirmation of what channel this is.

Calls log from last night and this morning on LWIN is very interesting. BCPD says “having radio trouble, everyone go to Zone B”. Then no other entries on LWIN.

Apparently the city P25 system is this “zone B”?
 

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Listened to 300 audio files. TG 521 is BCPD Ch. 2 (Info) Submitting this now. Look at the Caddo P25 system. I'm seeing a pattern with the odd numbers.

Also new TG 533. Utilities or other city services. Non-LE/Fire/EMS for sure.
 

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I noticed the same with the TGID similarities with Shreveport/Caddo.
Wonder if the contractor for the Caddo sys is trying to stand up a copy of that sys for Bossier, with unique freqs but the same TGIDs. =)

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I noticed the same with the TGID similarities with Shreveport/Caddo.
Wonder if the contractor for the Caddo sys is trying to stand up a copy of that sys for Bossier, with unique freqs but the same TGIDs. =)

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Perchance.

I didn’t SDR today, just set my Sds100 to record all talk group id’s except 519 and 39.

Did you pick up anything else or have any more info?
 
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