Box Elder CC on UCA

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This is a long shot but does anyone know the direct control channel for the Box Elder simulcast for the TG's on UCA? They have 7 control channels listed but only one is the main one used the others are linked in. I don't travel that way much but will be and am just trying to trim the fat off the meat per say and not have to load all the CC frequencies in just to figure out which one it is. Any help is much appreciated and thanks in advance!
 

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Good question. I haven't been up that way in a bit so I'm offering no help here, but if I were to guess... I'd say Promontory Point.
 

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OK I used to live in Cache County and am trying to understand what you are asking.
RR shows 7 IR or discrete sites in Box Elder County - look at the list. EACH of them has a control channel. I do not see that these 7 sites are simulcast....if so they would not be listed individually. ANd very difficult to make work since some of the sites are as much as 80 - 100 miles apart!
(FWIW a SImo site is listed in all documentation as ONE SITE without a specific list of the 2,3 or more transmitter locations. The Cache Valley Simo includes at least 3 or more specific transmitters located several miles apart from each other that transmit on the exact same frequency at the same exact time)
So I think your question really can be answered by - see which of the 7 sites is closest to where you are and program that site.
Does that make sense?
 

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Actually both Tooele and Box Elder are simulcast as well, they just aren't listed that way in RR. So Tooele for example you only need the CC from one of the sites listed programmed into your scanner and it will deviate the rest. Just like for Cache you'd only need 852.1375 programmed and the scanner will automatically do the rest. Box Elder is the same way which is why I asked if anyone knew of which of the seven sites listed for Box Elder county was the one needed for control. It's no biggie I programmed all 7 CC's in so I'll just leave it at that for now.
 

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Good question. I haven't been up that way in a bit so I'm offering no help here, but if I were to guess... I'd say Promontory Point.
I was thinking the same as well given geography of the area, I'll update if I figure out which one is the main CC for the region. Personally I think it helps knowing the main CC needed for a Simulcast
 
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Actually both Tooele and Box Elder are simulcast as well, they just aren't listed that way in RR. So Tooele for example you only need the CC from one of the sites listed programmed into your scanner and it will deviate the rest. Just like for Cache you'd only need 852.1375 programmed and the scanner will automatically do the rest. Box Elder is the same way which is why I asked if anyone knew of which of the seven sites listed for Box Elder county was the one needed for control. It's no biggie I programmed all 7 CC's in so I'll just leave it at that for now.
I do not see a site named Tooele, and any sites in Tooele County are not in Box Elder County....There is also no site named Box Elder, and there are seven IR or single site locations in Box Elder. So "Toole and Box Elder are simulcast" is incorrect.

What you may be talking about is "affiliation" in which a mobile unit will affiliate with a site and use a Talkgroup. That Talkgroup will ALSO be carried on adjacent neighbor sites so you hear the same words being spoken at the same time in a few sites. That is not simulcast as it is defined.

"The main CC of the region" could better be said "What site covers the largest area"
 
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Multicast vs Simulcast

However... doesn't answer the OP's question (if he worded it to anyone's liking or not)
 

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What he is asking "Direct control channel for Box Elder Simulcast" is an unanswerable question as there is no such beast. There are 7 sites all with slightly different coverage. Does he want to listen to Brigham? Then probably Cal Mountain. Far NW Box Elder county - then Lynn. It' s BIG County with seven sites. Real answer is program all 7 sites!
 
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