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K5KDF
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WTH did I just read???
so much fail in this thread
so much fail in this thread
kayn1n32008
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kayn1n32008
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WTH did I just read???
so much fail in this thread
Yup... Don't even know where to begin... And the 'Rangers' frequency is 'PRIVATE' nothing an hour with close call won't fix...
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Aero125
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Sounds like you are a motivated person. Keep studying for your Ham license and learning the rules for proper radio operation. Ask lots of questions and you'll learn a lot. Most important learn more about the radios you are selling so they don't get used illegally.
Try and get your boy scout leaders to get some Ham operators in there and you can get your merit badge (and maybe keep your camp out of FCC legal trouble)
teufler
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Good for you, Republican free enterprise at work. You probably will not generate any complaints from what radios you use, you probably won't be told, or the BS that if they arte paid employees, working off a ham repeater is a no no. All minor points but as a Scout, an probably a communication merit badge holder, you can relate some information that you have collected. It was nice that you posted some frequency information as parents with scanner, possibly in bad weather they can monitor the scouts as they hunker down. Possibly the camp has storm cellars that can be used, in my day of scounting, 50-60, we had at most camps, nothing but a ditch that we could run to. From that point, we could see if our wall tent had blown away or not.
Definitely looks like some wonky stuff has gone on. I will reach out to a few of the guys I know that work with K5BSA here in the Dallas area to see if they know what is going on. If you are looking for some help feel free to shoot me a PM. I had many great campouts at CSR when I was in scouts and want all scouts to have the same great experiences that I had.
As a Staff Member at Clements Scout Ranch and a Communications Officer I'd like to release the radio frequencies just in case anyone would like to listen.
Camp Operations - 151.820 (Main Frequency)
Side Events - 151.880 (Used for events such as Climbing Tower, Brotherhood, etc.)
Emergency - 151.940 (Emergency Frequency just in case the other 2 repeaters go down)
Private Talk 1 - 154.570 (Used for private conversations)
Private Talk 2 - 154.600 (Used for private conversations)
Rangers - PRIVATE (Camp Rangers use this frequency to communicate between each other)
The CTCSS to listen as far as I've seen is 88.5 for all frequencies. The radios we use are Wouxun KG-819, KG-UVA1, and my personal one I carry around is the KG-UVD1P. I'm an authorized dealer of Wouxun so I got them for the District cheap.
Happy listening!
Hahahahaha!!! *snort*
This whole thread is hilarious...
mmckenna
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Sniff test flunked.
While I have no doubt you've learned a lot about radios over the years, there are some blank spots that need to be filled in here.
Circle Ten has a license for a VHF repeater at this location, but it isn't on MURS, nor any of the frequencies you listed (Unless it's the one marked "Private") WPRF234 licenses 152.345 as an FB2 repeater. Looks like the input is on 157.605. 21 meter high tower is listed, so it should be pretty easy to find.
Why someone would go through the trouble of setting up a repeater properly, then adding in illegal MURS repeaters is beyond me. I suspect that maybe these channels set up on the MURS frequencies are actually just simplex channels.
Nothing wrong with using those radios on the properly licensed WPRF234 repeater. No problem using the repeater input as talk around. Those radios should have FCC Part 90 certification, unless someone monkeyed with the settings and turned on the self programming function, which would void it.
But, as others have said, they don't have the Part 95 certification they need to operate on MURS.
And, as stated by others, running a couple of illegal repeaters on MURS (if that is really what is going on) puts a shadow over the legal systems you do have.
Seems like this could easily be sorted out.
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An hour? What are you going to do with the other 58 minutes? (presuming the 'rangers' talk right away)
kayn1n32008
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Lol... I was figuring that being boy scouts, the rangers would be pretty bored...
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iamhere300
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Drake, one thing you will learn about posting here, is there are some people that will help, but for everyone one of them, there are probably 10 others that will just post hate, and try to find fault with anything.
Like calling your project "cute". Or telling you that you should know everything before you assume a title, even though you are in one of the ultimate training programs out there for leadership.
So ignore the haters, they most likely had bad childhoods, or even more probable, bad adulthoods,and they like to try to show they are smarter than a 14 year old. Sadly, they are not - at least a 14 year old is trying to learn and better himself.
And kudos for your dealing with Baofeng. Most would be going through Amazon, but you took the right road.
mmckenna seems to have the best handle on helping you, if I can help any more please let me know.
To the others - be part of the solution. Keep it simple, not simple minded.
Like calling your project "cute". Or telling you that you should know everything before you assume a title, even though you are in one of the ultimate training programs out there for leadership.
So ignore the haters, they most likely had bad childhoods, or even more probable, bad adulthoods,and they like to try to show they are smarter than a 14 year old. Sadly, they are not - at least a 14 year old is trying to learn and better himself.
And kudos for your dealing with Baofeng. Most would be going through Amazon, but you took the right road.
mmckenna seems to have the best handle on helping you, if I can help any more please let me know.
To the others - be part of the solution. Keep it simple, not simple minded.
If I read it correctly what he is trying to do is not legal correct? If I missed something my Apologies. So in your mind Iamhere300 some yoyo not your or the OP but in general think you can do whatever on my or somebody else's radio system.
iamhere300
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I am having a real issue trying to follow what you are saying here, but yes, you are correct, on the face it appears that if he does have repeaters on MURS it could be illegal. From the information given it appears that he may just be operating simplex and calling them repeatered channels. So, espicially in the situation he is in, lets mentor and help him out.
gesucks
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It does not matter if repeated or not. If he is using those radios on those channels, it IS illegal
iamhere300
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Yep. Won't ever most likely be legal. If for no other reason than the power out issue.
I would imagine, no, I can attest that it is almost universally ignored, but thats ok. He has been made aware. The onus will be on the BSA, along with having someone complain enough to get the FCC to do anything. Usually it takes a licensed user of a frequency to get anything started, going to be interesting to find a licensed user of a unlicensed band.
So, do we continue to hit him over the head with this, or do we try to mentor? Is it really more fun to bully a 14 year old?
mmckenna
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I can understand what you are saying, but removing this thread won't help.
If anything, getting this out in the open is a good idea. At least Drake is asking the right questions and looking for help.
Filling in some of the blanks here would probably be more beneficial. This could be a pretty easy fix. Talking about these sorts of issues and finding a solution that could be taken forward to whoever runs that specific camp, or the BSA would be useful.
Seems like the Boy Scouts of America should have someone on staff that can assist with this sort of stuff. Leaving the interpretation of the FCC rules to individuals without the proper training is the issue. It's way to easy to buy radios on the internet, and not all of them are legal. Sounds like Drake is trying to learn what he can and sort this stuff out in a legal fashion. Like I said, this might be a simple fix.
If anything, getting this out in the open is a good idea. At least Drake is asking the right questions and looking for help.
Filling in some of the blanks here would probably be more beneficial. This could be a pretty easy fix. Talking about these sorts of issues and finding a solution that could be taken forward to whoever runs that specific camp, or the BSA would be useful.
Seems like the Boy Scouts of America should have someone on staff that can assist with this sort of stuff. Leaving the interpretation of the FCC rules to individuals without the proper training is the issue. It's way to easy to buy radios on the internet, and not all of them are legal. Sounds like Drake is trying to learn what he can and sort this stuff out in a legal fashion. Like I said, this might be a simple fix.
ecps92
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Considering he has not logged back in since
Last Activity: 05-05-2015 11:23 PM
Likely a dead issue, there are plenty of Illegal users, Sadly and we need to FIGHT them all the way, and this is ONE forum we can educate them on.
I've seen/talked to users who have:
a.) Narrowbanded the License (never touched the equipment)
b.) Narrowbanded the Repeater (never touched the portables/mobiles) and now wonder why their radios are having issues.
Get a Legit Radioshop or Technician involved is the correct answer.
Last Activity: 05-05-2015 11:23 PM
Likely a dead issue, there are plenty of Illegal users, Sadly and we need to FIGHT them all the way, and this is ONE forum we can educate them on.
I've seen/talked to users who have:
a.) Narrowbanded the License (never touched the equipment)
b.) Narrowbanded the Repeater (never touched the portables/mobiles) and now wonder why their radios are having issues.
Get a Legit Radioshop or Technician involved is the correct answer.
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