Bozeman trunking

Highflyer96

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I've been away for awhile, and since I've come back, I notice that I'm not receiving any of the Bozeman talkgroups. I've checked my scanner (sds100) and it's working fine. I'm receiving MHP, and Broadwater talkgroups, but no groups in Bozeman or the county. Did something change while I was gone?
 

tvengr

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Try setting scanner to Ignore Site NAC. Are these the sites you have programmed? Do you have all of the frequencies for each site?

1 (1)027 (1B)Bozeman 800Gallatin851.050c851.350c851.650c852.350852.700853.050853.350
1 (1)030 (1E)Bozeman (East)Gallatin154.965155.040c155.415c155.940
1 (1)031 (1F)ManhattanGallatin154.235c154.740c154.875161.875
1 (1)032 (20)Gallatin GatewayGallatin151.355c155.355155.400155.865c
1 (1)033 (21)Bozeman VHFGallatin161.8625c161.9125164.725c
1 (1)038 (26)Bozeman EOCGallatin154.830c154.950154.980155.640161.9875

Are these the talkgroups? Two sheriff talkgroups are encrypted.

Gallatin County

DEC HEX Mode Alpha TagDescriptionTag
506513c9DGallatin SO NSheriff Dispatch NorthLaw Dispatch
505913c3DEGallatin SO TacSheriff TacticalLaw Tac
505313bdDEGallatin SO 5053Sherriff (5053)Law Talk
508113d9DGallatin SO CrtSheriff Court SecurityLaw Tac
5229146dDGallatin IncidntCounty IncidentLaw Tac
51571425DGallatinCo EMS NEMS NorthEMS Dispatch
506713cbDGallatinCo EMS SEMS SouthEMS Dispatch
51551423DGallatinCo AMRAmerican Medical ResponseEMS-Tac


Gallatin County - Bozeman

DEC HEX Mode Alpha TagDescriptionTag
504513b5DBozeman PD 1Police 1Law Dispatch
505713c1DBozeman PD 2Police 2Law Tac
51271407DBozeman FD DispFire DispatchFire Dispatch
5135140fDBozeman FD Tac 1Fire Tac 1Fire-Tac
51371411DBozeman FD Tac 2Fire Tac 2Fire-Tac
51391413DBozeman FD Tac 3Fire Tac 3Fire-Tac
5133140dDBozeman FD TrainFire TrainingFire-Tac

Gallatin County - Montana State University

DEC HEX Mode Alpha TagDescriptionTag
508913e1DMSU PoliceState University Police DisptachLaw Dispatch
 

Highflyer96

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Try setting scanner to Ignore Site NAC. Are these the sites you have programmed? Do you have all of the frequencies for each site?

1 (1)027 (1B)Bozeman 800Gallatin851.050c851.350c851.650c852.350852.700853.050853.350
1 (1)030 (1E)Bozeman (East)Gallatin154.965155.040c155.415c155.940
1 (1)031 (1F)ManhattanGallatin154.235c154.740c154.875161.875
1 (1)032 (20)Gallatin GatewayGallatin151.355c155.355155.400155.865c
1 (1)033 (21)Bozeman VHFGallatin161.8625c161.9125164.725c
1 (1)038 (26)Bozeman EOCGallatin154.830c154.950154.980155.640161.9875

Are these the talkgroups? Two sheriff talkgroups are encrypted.

Gallatin County​

DECHEXModeAlpha TagDescriptionTag
506513c9DGallatin SO NSheriff Dispatch NorthLaw Dispatch
505913c3DEGallatin SO TacSheriff TacticalLaw Tac
505313bdDEGallatin SO 5053Sherriff (5053)Law Talk
508113d9DGallatin SO CrtSheriff Court SecurityLaw Tac
5229146dDGallatin IncidntCounty IncidentLaw Tac
51571425DGallatinCo EMS NEMS NorthEMS Dispatch
506713cbDGallatinCo EMS SEMS SouthEMS Dispatch
51551423DGallatinCo AMRAmerican Medical ResponseEMS-Tac


Gallatin County - Bozeman

DECHEXModeAlpha TagDescriptionTag
504513b5DBozeman PD 1Police 1Law Dispatch
505713c1DBozeman PD 2Police 2Law Tac
51271407DBozeman FD DispFire DispatchFire Dispatch
5135140fDBozeman FD Tac 1Fire Tac 1Fire-Tac
51371411DBozeman FD Tac 2Fire Tac 2Fire-Tac
51391413DBozeman FD Tac 3Fire Tac 3Fire-Tac
5133140dDBozeman FD TrainFire TrainingFire-Tac

Gallatin County - Montana State University

DECHEXModeAlpha TagDescriptionTag
508913e1DMSU PoliceState University Police DisptachLaw Dispatch
Yes, I have all the correct sites along with frequencies, and all the talk groups. From what I can see nothing has changed in the database since I left, yet I'm not receiving anything. I'll try the NAC suggestion. Thanks
 

tvengr

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Are you showing the control channel frequency on each site you have programmed when scanning? It is possible that additional control channel capable frequencies are not in the database. Program all of the frequencies in each site to be safe. If the scanner works when you Ignore Site NAC, a site NAC may be incorrect or has changed.
 

Highflyer96

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Thanks. So far nothing has changed with ignoring the NAC. I'll go in and program all the control channels to each site to see what happens. Thanks again.
 

curtisdevault

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Gallatin County has transition to their new radio system. It’s an EFJ 800mhz trunked system. Eventually, the primary talkgroups will be patched to the state system.
 

Highflyer96

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Thank you for the information, but in the mean time is there a list of frequencies that can be programmed, or are we stuck not listening to Gallatin until they get patched to the system? Hopefully that won't take to long.
 

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Found an 800 MHz P25 Phase 2 simulcast trunked license (WRMK753) for Gallatin County with 8 frequencies on 2 subsites in Belgrade and Bozeman. Put these 8 frequencies into a site on a P25 trunked system set to ID Search to see if you hear anything.
854.9625
855.4625
855.9625
856.4875
856.9875
857.2125
857.7125
858.2125
 

jjwhite29

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Yes Bozeman left the Montana State System and went to a sperate system it was discussed at a recent Montana Public Safety Communication meeting
 

Highflyer96

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Thank you for all the information everyone has provided. Through alot of research, I've found the new system Gallatin county is on ...

System: 820
Sites: 001, 004
Wacn: 42021h
P25NAC: 820h
RFSS ID: 1
Control channels: 855.962, 856.7625
Talkgroup: 6300 County sheriff dispatch
6400. EMR
6100. Bozeman Police
6913. Fire North

I'm sure there are other talk groups, and additional frequencies, but I haven't discovered them as of yet. Thank you again for all the help.
 

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Are both of those frequencies actual control channels? If they are, you are scanning the 2 subsites in Belgrade and Bozeman as well as the site on Nixon Ridge near Manhattan.
 

Highflyer96

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They are both showing as control channels on my old Whistler 500. Those are the only control channels I've been able to come up with for the system. I do know that the county used the Nixon Ridge when they were on the state system.
 

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Check these sites also:

WQZC596 Bozeman
851.0500
851'3500
851.6500
852.0500
852.3500
852.7000
853.0500
853.3500

WRMK740 West Yellowstone
856.0125
857.2625
857.7625
858.2625

WRMK746 Big Sky
856.2125
856.7125
857.0125
857.4375

WRML496 1/8 mile east of Carrie Nye Trail Bozeman
858.7125
859.2125
859.7125
 
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