Thanks.
This switch leaves somewhat of a mystery: What to do with the now-unused CS TRS?
This switch leaves somewhat of a mystery: What to do with the now-unused CS TRS?
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I would have to imagine they reassign the frequencies to the TxWARN system in some manner. Nobody is left on it, and it costs a lot of money to keep eight transmitters running full time...
I suspect the CS TRS will be kept up until Bryan and Brazos County switch over. I just heard a College Station fire call requesting a Bryan medic. Usually, the Bryan unit will switch over to the CS system. Since CSFD is now on TxWARN, Bryan FD used CSFD's old primary on the CS system, which is patched to CSFD's new TxWARN TG. It's important to note that Bryan Fire has been simulcasting on their future TxWARN dispatch channel for the last week or so, but I haven't heard any units actually using it yet. I have also not heard any activity on any of the new Bryan Police or Brazos County Sheriff channels.
Okay. I spoke too soon. Bryan PD primary was briefly simulcasting on their future TxWARN TG (2542). I also heard a test count on the future Brazos County Sheriff primary (2596). Correction: now BPD secondary (2543). They might make that December 31st deadline after all...
BPD Primary and Secondary are still being simulcasted on TxWARN (mainly on 121). I'm a little perplexed as to why BCSO isn't doing the same...
Sounds like they are close. Don't worry, they will switch over. I was interested to hear CS because I had never heard them in P25. BPD and BCSO are not in new territory with P25. They probably won't notice a lot of change, outside of superior reception in the south end of the county.
Me neither. I keep having to check my scanner because every time I hear them, I think it's an out-of-area agency!
Also, you are right about the southern Brazos County reception problems with the County system. I kind of lose it when I pass Westward Ho on Highway 6 heading towards the Grimes County line. Also, I've heard rumors that the Brazos County VFD might also be switching to the TxWARN system. It might also fix their persistant and very serious problems with reception in some portions of the county on their VHF channel.
n5gqb
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There is a tower in Millican on Kathy Fleming road. Do you have that tower in the mix?
I was told they would like to add a tower in Edge for far NE county coverage too. Not sure that will happen though.
So has anyone determined as to which sites always simulcast? I haven't explored that just yet with multiple radios going at one time and didn't know if anyone else has. At this moment I would assume that CS, Hensel and Bryan sites all simulcast each other? That is you can hear anyone of the four agencies (SO,CS,B,TAMU) on all three main sites?
Also regarding CSFD, why are they still being heard on the old trunk system? Are they bee-bopping back and forth? Seems like a little while back they were exclusive on bvwacs and not heard on the (old system) and yet now they are.
Will the sheriff terminate its vhf simulcast when they switch?
Lastly for what its worth, I have programmed (in my psr-500) each site separately and entered in the associated talkgroups for each and scanlisted each municipality separately. Seems to work better for me that way than the way I had it. Which was all the control channels lumped together and set is for multi-site trunking (tried both roam and stat and ck all cc's). Anyway I was missing too much that way.
Still working on setting up the Unidens...
I was told they would like to add a tower in Edge for far NE county coverage too. Not sure that will happen though.
So has anyone determined as to which sites always simulcast? I haven't explored that just yet with multiple radios going at one time and didn't know if anyone else has. At this moment I would assume that CS, Hensel and Bryan sites all simulcast each other? That is you can hear anyone of the four agencies (SO,CS,B,TAMU) on all three main sites?
Also regarding CSFD, why are they still being heard on the old trunk system? Are they bee-bopping back and forth? Seems like a little while back they were exclusive on bvwacs and not heard on the (old system) and yet now they are.
Will the sheriff terminate its vhf simulcast when they switch?
Lastly for what its worth, I have programmed (in my psr-500) each site separately and entered in the associated talkgroups for each and scanlisted each municipality separately. Seems to work better for me that way than the way I had it. Which was all the control channels lumped together and set is for multi-site trunking (tried both roam and stat and ck all cc's). Anyway I was missing too much that way.
Still working on setting up the Unidens...
The only reason that CSFD is still using the old system is because, as I said before, so Bryan, which has not yet switched over, can still mutual aid them.
The sites aren't simulcast sites. According to a friend, certain TGIDs are associated only with certain towers. Each site has a list of "home" TGIDs. These are ones that are asscoiated with the area which that site covers. For example, the CS site has all of the CS TGs on it, the Bryan site has Bryan and Brazos County TGs associated with it, and the Hensel site has TAMU TGs associated with it. As for the Millican site, it has several future Grimes County TGs in it. I don't think there will be any more Brazos County sites coming up anytime soon.
The sites aren't simulcast sites. According to a friend, certain TGIDs are associated only with certain towers. Each site has a list of "home" TGIDs. These are ones that are asscoiated with the area which that site covers. For example, the CS site has all of the CS TGs on it, the Bryan site has Bryan and Brazos County TGs associated with it, and the Hensel site has TAMU TGs associated with it. As for the Millican site, it has several future Grimes County TGs in it. I don't think there will be any more Brazos County sites coming up anytime soon.
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<quote>Each site has a list of "home" TGIDs. These are ones that are asscoiated with the area which that site covers. For example, the CS site has all of the CS TGs on it, the Bryan site has Bryan and Brazos County TGs associated with it, and the Hensel site has TAMU TGs associated with it.<quote>
Yea that goes without saying. I just wondering if some extra script has been written in the system to always relay/link the 3 sites all comms for full county coverage for any agency here in the county. Everytime I listen to a particular site in search mode I always hear all bcs agencies. Anyway that what it seems like.
Yea that goes without saying. I just wondering if some extra script has been written in the system to always relay/link the 3 sites all comms for full county coverage for any agency here in the county. Everytime I listen to a particular site in search mode I always hear all bcs agencies. Anyway that what it seems like.
The sites will only broadcast a TG if a radio is affiliated with, or in the area of, the site. It just so happens that there is a radio affiliated with the primary TGs at every site. That is why you are unlikely to hear Bryan Water Dept on the Mullican tower, but likely to hear it in the other three.
BTW, do you have a list of future Grimes TGs you have gotten ahold of?
BTW, do you have a list of future Grimes TGs you have gotten ahold of?
n5gqb
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Yea that's also what I'm thinking after I posted that... "Statistics of Probability", at any given time there will be someone (with a radio on) somewhere within the county at any given location within the county with said agency, either on/off duty. Thus full coverage of all agencies (to a degree).
To add to my above statement, currently I am hearing CSPD Primary on both the Bryan site and CS site. However I am only hearing CSPD Secondary on the CS site and not on the Bryan site.
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Correct. It appears that all dispatch units simulcast on all sites, while the mobiles only broadcast on the particular site the radio is affiliated with.
Rattler, I'm not really sure what these are (possibly BVWACS mutual aid?) but here they are:
3973: Grimes County "LAW-1"
3974: Grimes County "LAW-2"
3983: Grimes County "FIRE-1"
3984: Grimes County "FIRE-2"
3993: Grimes County "EMS-1"
3994: Grimes County "EMS-2"
4003: Grimes County "EMGT-1"
4004: Grimes County "EMGT-2"
3973: Navasota "LAW-1"
3974: Navasota "LAW-2"
3981: Navasota "FIRE-1"
3982: Navasota "FIRE-2"
3991: Navasota "EMS-1"
3992: Navasota "EMS-2"
4001: Navasota "EMGT-1"
4002: Navasota "EMGT-2"
These *MIGHT* be future channels for GCSO/GCVFD/NPD/NFD, but I'm not sure. I suspect they might be mutual aid, because both Brazos and Washington Counties have them as well (with different TGIDs, of course).
One other thing...
Bryan PD has stopped simulcasting on TxWARN. I don't know what that means, but it appears that, at least for now, the "big switch" is still a way off.
Rattler, I'm not really sure what these are (possibly BVWACS mutual aid?) but here they are:
3973: Grimes County "LAW-1"
3974: Grimes County "LAW-2"
3983: Grimes County "FIRE-1"
3984: Grimes County "FIRE-2"
3993: Grimes County "EMS-1"
3994: Grimes County "EMS-2"
4003: Grimes County "EMGT-1"
4004: Grimes County "EMGT-2"
3973: Navasota "LAW-1"
3974: Navasota "LAW-2"
3981: Navasota "FIRE-1"
3982: Navasota "FIRE-2"
3991: Navasota "EMS-1"
3992: Navasota "EMS-2"
4001: Navasota "EMGT-1"
4002: Navasota "EMGT-2"
These *MIGHT* be future channels for GCSO/GCVFD/NPD/NFD, but I'm not sure. I suspect they might be mutual aid, because both Brazos and Washington Counties have them as well (with different TGIDs, of course).
One other thing...
Bryan PD has stopped simulcasting on TxWARN. I don't know what that means, but it appears that, at least for now, the "big switch" is still a way off.
n5gqb
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All together (bryan)? I was hearing everything but the dispatcher side on Bryan 700 last night.
Is CSFD using a computerized voice for the tone-outs? Heard a tone out today that sounded like such.
Rattler: I have the same info as mfn002
Is CSFD using a computerized voice for the tone-outs? Heard a tone out today that sounded like such.
Rattler: I have the same info as mfn002
No, there's no robo-dispatcher. I think it's just a new dispatcher (I heard her acknowledging an ambulance checking out at the Med a while ago). You're right about her sounding sort of automated, though.
I've been hearing all of Bryan Fire's traffic for weeks now, but BPD just disappeared.
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just looked and navasota law 1 and 2 are the same as grimes law 1 and 2 guess they will be dispatched by the county
Hmmm...Because of Grimes County's size, I would say those are probably slotted as future channels for day to day operations, otherwise why would Grimes and Navasota need 16 mutual aid channels. Those are probably the ones that are issued to surrounding agencies for mutual aid, with private tac or talk channels yet unassigned, I would imagine.
Now when you say that B & W have them as well, that throws a wrench in my thinking. However, if they were just mutual aid channels, I would still think it ridiculously silly to have 16 channels for mutual aid in Grimes County when the five big agencies in Grimes County might use 6 or 7 channels on a regular basis.
Just submitted the rest of the Bryan TxWARN TGs as well as those for Brazos County (None of those are in use yet). Rattler, I also submitted the mutual aid TGs for Brazos and Washington Counties. Interestingly, Brazos and Washington Counties only have 8 of those mutual aid channels. In addition to Grimes County, Burleson County also, apparently, has the mutual aid TGs (they will appear when my DB submission is posted).
If they are not mutual aid channels, it would also make sense. You'd have Grimes County Sheriff primary and secondary, Grimes County Fire primary and secondary, Navasota Police primary and secondary, and Navasota Fire primary and secondary. As for the EMS TGs, I would suspect that the county ones would be for St. Joe's EMS. As for Navasota, I'm not really sure. Although, to be honest, I wouldn't be too surprised if they went to TxWARN. After all, by well into next year, they will be surrounded by counties using TxWARN (Waller, Walker, Brazos, and Montgomery). It would also make sense for Burleson County to join. Washington County relies on Burleson County somewhat frequently for mutual aid. What I'm perplexed about is why Robertson County isn't on there. Robertson County units frequently request mutual aid from Brazos County, and it isn't uncommon to hear a Bryan Fire or EMS unit dispatched to mutual aid Robertson County. Also, they would probably enjoy having those "extra channels" (one of the reasons that Brazos County and Bryan went to 800 in the first place).
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