Brisbane type 2 system

[cjradloff76]

Hi, I know that 184a is a bygone ira but I’ve been searching eBay and seen a lot of XTS and XTL mobiles that work in 450-512 even handhelds in the same some with encryption that might work unencrypted with the right flash code I have a couple of us ones on the way that could be reprogrammed but I’m not quite sure if this will work. What flashcode does QPS use. I don’t have access to CPS
I’ll post when I get my new radios

Thanks clint

 

[NVAGVUP]

Unable to decipher many details from inquiry.

If you are looking to monitor/communicate on a P25 Phase 2 system, you will need an APX (Motorola) at a minimum. (XTS/XTL will not do Phase 2)

 

[KevinC]

I'm guessing whatever system this is is Phase 2 and not Type 2...but I could be wrong.

 

[clbsquared]

What are you trying to do? Put personal used radios on an agencies system and use encryption so they can’t hear you? Where is Brisbane?

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Where is Brisbane?

Australia?

 

[cjradloff76]

I’m studying different types of encryption I’m not interested in listening because they use iPads now

 

[KE4ZNR]

Hi, I know that 184a is a bygone ira but I’ve been searching eBay and seen a lot of XTS and XTL mobiles that work in 450-512 even handhelds in the same some with encryption that might work unencrypted with the right flash code I have a couple of us ones on the way that could be reprogrammed but I’m not quite sure if this will work. What flashcode does QPS use. I don’t have access to CPS
I’ll post when I get my new radios

Thanks clint

Hey Clint. You seem to be a novice at all things Motorola.
Couple of things:
1) You can't decode encrypted radio traffic "with the right flashcode". Flashcode only lists which features are in a radio. What you want to do will not work in any way shape or form.
2) Stick with SDRs or scanners. I am pretty darn sure Australian authorities would have major issues with you trying do decrypt encrypted radio traffic. It is encrypted for a reason.
3) As others have said If it is indeed a Phase 2 TDMA system then no XTS/XTL will work on it.
4) Just stop. Stop what you are trying to do. You are in waaay over your head and stop before you end up
in legal/financial trouble.

 

[KE4ZNR]

I’m studying different types of encryption I’m not interested in listening because they use iPads now

You can "study" all you want but actually attempting to decrypt encrypted radio traffic is a major no-no regardless of where you live.

 

[ElroyJetson]

Be aware that when dealing with encrypted technologies, there are laws that govern their transportation between certain countries. It's not legal, in the US, for example, to export certain types of encrypted radio products to other nations without an export license issued by the US Department of State. These regulations do affect encrypted P25 products and yes as an individual you may be prosecuted for violating those laws and regulations. So do your homework FIRST. Be sure that if you're importing or exporting an encrypted radio product, it's legal for you to do so.

It's a complicated enough field, with so many conditions, exceptions, and stipulations, that it's impossible to give a short and simple guide as to whether or not your specific case will require export/import licenses or is even eligible for those licenses.

I would simply try to source your radios domestically and thus avoid any export/import hassles entirely.

 

[ElroyJetson]

As for "studying" encryption, there are tons of research papers already published on the subject. You don't need to obtain ANY hardware to study it to your heart's content. You can easily use websites to experiment with encryption or download encryption/decryption applications using an incredibly diverse array of encryption formats.

115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639936 is the number of possible keys for AES-256. Good luck finding the right key for any given problem!

For 56 bit DES the number of possible keys is a little less mind numbing... just 72057594037927936.

 

[clbsquared]

Australia?

Possibly. But there is also a Brisbane, California. Both are UHF.

 

[VK3RX]

QPS = Queensland Police Service, so yes, Australia.