Hubfla
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Attenuator on or off? Thanks
Broward County P25 (997.BEE00)
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SlickAppleseed
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Broward County has now switched over to a P25 system.
APX8000
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Thanks for the heads up 12 pages into the thread !
You don't say?!?
I just did a fairly major re-naming of the D1-D15 talkgroups to make them standardized in the database as far as the layout of the text fields for talkgroup display / description. I think it helped. If you have input, please use the submit tab on the system home page.
Doug
Doug
since these alpha tags were added before I did the edits - can someone help me understand:
Dispatch 2 (2) Dania (3) FLL (14) Port Everglades
what the (2) (3) and (14) mean?
thx
doug
Dispatch 2 (2) Dania (3) FLL (14) Port Everglades
what the (2) (3) and (14) mean?
thx
doug
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They are BSO district numbers.
well that certainly makes sense. then makes me really wonder how the "D##" correspond
keep in mind - I do not live in Broward.
but
if i see this:
| BCP D8 TM/NL/PD | Dispatch 8 (7) Tamarac,(15) North Lauderdale (17) Parkland |
BCP = Brevard County Police, check
D8 = Dispatch 8, check
but the fact that "Dispatch 8" works district 7, 15 and 17....
just makes me kind of chuckle a little.
same thoughts for this one:
| BCP D9 DR/MARINE | Dispatch 9 (10) Deerfield Beach, Marine |
Dispatch 9 = district 10.... LOL
not very intuitive - at least from my view.
doug
Right; dispatch channel numbers do not equate to district numbers.
APX8000
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Each "dispatch" talkgroup handles multiple "districts" for the most part. For example, as indicated above, "Dispatch 8" dispatches District 7-Tamarac, District 15-North Lauderdale and District 17-Parkland. The Dispatch USED TO correspond to the ZONE in the subscribers on the previous fleetmap. So zone 8A was dispatch 8. With the new layout, the dispatch zones are now 12 and up. So 8 is now 18 but they still use the 8 designator.
The District number is also part of callsign. So "7 Bravo 2" would be Tamarac day shift in Sector 2. "17 Delta 1" would be a Sergeant in Parkland. This is not really unique to Broward. For Palm Beach, they use North, Central and South "regions" with some covering multiple areas. For example, SR1 covers District 4-Delray, District 6-Boynton and Highland Beach "HB" PD. Same concept, 6A1 callsign is Boynton Deputy on night shift. Palm Beach changed over a few years ago to this system of callsigns as well from the old Alpha, Bravo, etc. that they used to use for the Districts.
Even up in NJ, when Im in Morris County their "Police 1" talkgroup covers 4 different departments just like 7 other Police talkgroups each cover multiple departments. NYPD channels cover multiple precincts. It all makes sense to me.
The District number is also part of callsign. So "7 Bravo 2" would be Tamarac day shift in Sector 2. "17 Delta 1" would be a Sergeant in Parkland. This is not really unique to Broward. For Palm Beach, they use North, Central and South "regions" with some covering multiple areas. For example, SR1 covers District 4-Delray, District 6-Boynton and Highland Beach "HB" PD. Same concept, 6A1 callsign is Boynton Deputy on night shift. Palm Beach changed over a few years ago to this system of callsigns as well from the old Alpha, Bravo, etc. that they used to use for the Districts.
Even up in NJ, when Im in Morris County their "Police 1" talkgroup covers 4 different departments just like 7 other Police talkgroups each cover multiple departments. NYPD channels cover multiple precincts. It all makes sense to me.
Hubfla
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I am thinking of returning the SDS100. Is the G5 easy to program, or a whole other ballgame?
IMHO, I think a G5 is overkill for this system.
An SDS series scanner should do you just fine IF you monitor something else besides a P25 simulcast system.
A G5, comes in two flavors, or splits, for VHF and UHF, should you want to monitor other than a simulcast P25 800Mhz system.
IF your only monitoring interest lay in Broward, a G4 is a better choice.
However, a Unication is not as flexible as an SDS in the sense that, there are limitations.
Starting with the amount of talk groups, you get 64, and, if you want to monitor more than 64, at the same time, it is not possible with current firmware.
There's currently a newer FW in the works that would allow you to monitor more than one system at a time (think, Broward and Miami Dade) but, not sure wether it would allow more than 64 talkgroups at a time.
I own a G4 and an SDS200, the SDS200 I use at home with a discone antenna to monitor my local P25 simulcast activity and other systems.
The G4 I take to work with me primarily for the battery life, I can go a whole shift and beyond, and not worry about battery swapping.
Size and weight of the G4, is also a big plus.
With the current FW version available, I can hold on to a talkgroup or block one a nuissance one, making it very usable and as close to a scanner functionality as you can currently get.
Unlike an SDS series scanner, where you have Sentinel to help you with programming, a Unication requires you to input several key pieces of info, but, you got to know which to choose, which to use and where you want that info allocated.
It took me a little of bit of researching to figure it out, but, it really isn't as hard as, say, taking a Motorola APX and programming it for non-affiliated scan (which I have absolutely no knowledge of but I've read, it can be as dangerous as running a nuclear power plant with a Chinese to English translated manual
).
APX8000
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It took me a little of bit of researching to figure it out, but, it really isn't as hard as, say, taking a Motorola APX and programming it for non-affiliated scan (which I have absolutely no knowledge of but I've read, it can be as dangerous as running a nuclear power plant with a Chinese to English translated manual
I'd also recommend going the G4 route unless you want to listen to Miami-Dade Fire Rescue, where the G5 with UHF will come in handy. Keep in mind that you can't currently scan more than one system (unless you are using Beta firmware which I am and it misses too much traffic for my liking); you can't scan conventional and trunked at the same time; and the UHF portion will use an internal loop antenna, not the external antenna the the 7/800 utilizes which diminishes your RX range on UHF. So its really a matter of preference with what you want to do. The G4/G5 is a workhorse and is extremely portable.
As far a NAS with an APX quoted above, its works better than anything else out there...until you forget that one field in CPS and someone bricks your radio 😀
FWIW I did the research and legwork. SDS vice G4/5 as APX8000 said above. The Broward/Miami-Dade Metro area is just too big for a G4/5 UNLESS you have unlimited funds and you buy a G4 to listen to just one Broward simulcast system and nothing else. G4 sounds great BUT I have to go with another SDS for maximum flexibility with listening and funds available. Maybe when I retire in 4 years I'll pick up a G for just Broward.
Hubfla
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Do you have an SDS100 and if so, is it necessary to scan the alligator alley site.
I have an SDS200 and do scan Alligator Alley, I do get quite a lot of hits from Davie.
I'm way west of you.
Jim
I'm way west of you.
Jim
Hubfla
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OK thanks, I'm just having a difficult time with the local stuff. I live in Deerfield Beach, and mainly listen to BSO district 10. A lot of times when scanning for this channel the SDS100 does not stop on them. If I lock on to it, I hear partial transmissions. What are some of your settings that I might be missing? Wonder if its necessary to monitor the Alley site, since I am bit away.
The SDS 200 does miss a bit, even with just the Fire Groups activated only, and everything else locked out. Settings are all wide. However, I have an SDR running with SDR Trunk at the same time and that catches everything, even in stereo, when a multitude of transmissions stack up the SDR splits them out in stereo on the PC.
