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APX8000
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See post 8....plantation is there too...
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jafarm66
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Are there going to repeaters so the P1 systems are heard county wide? I can't hear Plantation from my home in North Broward. I barely hear the Middle PD P-25 Dispatch channel (Central Ft Lauderdale I believe)
There is, in fact, activity on the old Project 16 Fort Lauderdale trunked system. I've heard activity since the switch on the surveyor's talkgroup and a few other local government city services talkgroups.
I have also heard the random police unit come up on the old analog talkgroups as if he hadn't gotten the word about the new channels. The main police P25 channels are in position "P" on their selectors with the Bravo tactical talkgroups one spot up from that which I suppose is "Oscar". So the current code plugs have both old and new talkgroups in them.
I'll hear what I can turn up in coming days.
I have also heard the random police unit come up on the old analog talkgroups as if he hadn't gotten the word about the new channels. The main police P25 channels are in position "P" on their selectors with the Bravo tactical talkgroups one spot up from that which I suppose is "Oscar". So the current code plugs have both old and new talkgroups in them.
I'll hear what I can turn up in coming days.
5265 FORT LAUDERDALE FIRE DISPATCH
5275 Fort Lauderdale fire tac B
5297 Fort Lauderdale police District 1
5298 Fort Lauderdale police District 2
5299 Fort Lauderdale police District 3
5275 Fort Lauderdale fire tac B
5297 Fort Lauderdale police District 1
5298 Fort Lauderdale police District 2
5299 Fort Lauderdale police District 3
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I'm running UniTrunker and I can confirm Ft Lauderdale is using a PHASE-2 system. Subsequently I was also able to obtain all the trunked frequencies as well. I've also found a few other TalkGroups that have yet to be identified, which I will try to decipher later...
Well, then it's good to know that my 996T has silently been upgraded to decoding Phase-2 transmissions, because I've been listening to the new Fort Lauderdale system last night and today just fine.
I've created a Google Docs spreadsheet to share the wealth while I figure out which talkgroups are which. Feel free to update me with confirmed identities so I can add them.
Thanks.
I've created a Google Docs spreadsheet to share the wealth while I figure out which talkgroups are which. Feel free to update me with confirmed identities so I can add them.
Thanks.
RWL
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Recently lost the ability to monitor Boynton Beach Public Safety freqs... The local CC freq ID has changed from "SY813A" to "SY598". The other three entities (PBC Sheriff, Boca Raton and Delray Beach have not changed and I am still able to listen to their communications. I've been checking all sources I can find and nothing shows any changes to the listed frequencies for this system.
Recently lost the ability to monitor Boynton Beach Public Safety freqs... The local CC freq ID has changed from "SY813A" to "SY598". The other three entities (PBC Sheriff, Boca Raton and Delray Beach have not changed and I am still able to listen to their communications. I've been checking all sources I can find and nothing shows any changes to the listed frequencies for this system.
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See the photo attached... Where it says Channel Access: P2... That P2 stands for Phase-2 channels, correct???
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Also, I have managed to find so far about 20 or so TalkGroups, many of which aren't listed by you or anyone else yet. Not sure who they belong to yet as I am not able to program and listen to the system right now. I have attached a photo of all the TalkGroups so you may update your list and investigate!
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APX8000
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The system is Phase II. HOWEVER, Phase II systems can use both FDMA (what you are hearing now) talkgroups and TDMA (in which you need a "Phase II scanner"). Whether or not FTL switches to TDMA will only be told with time. Remember, if one FDMA radio affiliates to the talkgroup (such as a XTS or XTL), the talkgroup will be FDMA. It could very well be that they have not get equipped everyone with APX subscribers. So what is now may not necessarily be later.
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APX8000
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RWL you can listen to Boynton on the county simulcast while their system is upgraded.
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I think I just figured something out... Like how the new Ft Laud and Plantation systems seem to be using Coral Springs' same system ID... What if Ft Laud and Plantation actually went into an agreement with Coral Springs, similar to what Delray and Boca and Boynton did with using PBC system ID? Cuz according to RadioReference, Coral Springs Site # is 7 and Ft Laud Site # is 8 but same system ID... I'm thinking Ft Laud is sharing Coral Springs system ID and stuff but just got a different trunking Site... Any input from anyone? Is this possible?? It would explain Ft Laud and Plantation having the same system ID and Springs, and having site 8 while Springs is Site 7....
I only included the talkgroups on my spreadsheet that had more than 1 hit in Unitrunker. Plus, I only started running it on the new FtL system last night. The weekend has less activity. Starting tomorrow we should see the fire marshal and other public safety users to fill out the list.
APX8000
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David...read my posts #8 and 17. It's all one big system. I'm sure they are sharing the came core just like Palm Beach County.
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radioguru6613
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Maybe that it's not their system, they're just users on someone else's system kinda like what DOD does for USAF has anyone figured out what sites 1 thru 6 are?
APX8000
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They are sharing Browards core (for the third time).
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RadRef has most of the new Fort Lauderdale talkgroups as of this afternoon, so it looks like Ian has been busy.
Here are my latest finds from Unitrunker overnight and up to the minute, now updated in my Google Docs spreadsheet while we discover new talkgroups.
5259 – FtL Fire H, battalion chief chat (I infer ‘H’ because it sits between the numeric IDs for G and i, radio shop has been consistent)
5273 – Lifeguard 2, I saw some ocean rescue radios in the log talking on this one
5364 – FtL police records channel, when they don’t switch to Broward TTY central
5369 – a number of police radios affiliated with this talkgroup
5374 – FtL police Kilo channel, detectives intercom
Here are my latest finds from Unitrunker overnight and up to the minute, now updated in my Google Docs spreadsheet while we discover new talkgroups.
5259 – FtL Fire H, battalion chief chat (I infer ‘H’ because it sits between the numeric IDs for G and i, radio shop has been consistent)
5273 – Lifeguard 2, I saw some ocean rescue radios in the log talking on this one
5364 – FtL police records channel, when they don’t switch to Broward TTY central
5369 – a number of police radios affiliated with this talkgroup
5374 – FtL police Kilo channel, detectives intercom
RWL
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Thanks for that... Thought I had tried everything ... RWL
The core is actually owned by Motorola Solutions. Broward, Coral Springs, Ft. Lauderdale, Hollywood, & Plantation all lease ports off of it.
http://www.broward.org/CommunicationsTechnology/Newsletters/Documents/February2013.pdf
The Hosted Maser Site agreement was executed in December 2011. Equipment was staged and tested in Motorola’s Headquarters in June 2012. The cutover to Motorola’s Hosted Master Site began on January 9, 2013,
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