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I purchased a new Starlink Mini today for $300. Looks like the $10/month plan is now gone. Thus, in addition to the current higher cost/data options for roaming, they now have a $5/month U.S.D. "standby mode" which is capped around 500 kbps up/down, but the data is unlimited.

I'm fine with 500 kbps as one can make phone calls, email and send text messages using the Starlink "WiFi" to make calls, etc. As for browsing heavily scripted, image, or video web pages...not so much. I'm figuring various Android and iPhone apps may choke as well.

I'm fine with that $5 500kbps cost and speed. From time to time I will bump it to the $50/50Gbps month plan as needed. Natural disasters here are nothing like what KevinC sees, but I will enjoy it when I'm in deep somewhere enjoying my hobbies, or at least having a failover connection at home.
 

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I purchased a new Starlink Mini today for $300. Looks like the $10/month plan is now gone. Thus, in addition to the current higher cost/data options for roaming, they now have a $5/month U.S.D. "standby mode" which is capped around 500 kbps up/down, but the data is unlimited.

I'm fine with 500 kbps as one can make phone calls, email and send text messages using the Starlink "WiFi" to make calls, etc. As for browsing heavily scripted, image, or video web pages...not so much. I'm figuring various Android and iPhone apps may choke as well.

I'm fine with that $5 500kbps cost and speed. From time to time I will bump it to the $50/50Gbps month plan as needed. Natural disasters here are nothing like what KevinC sees, but I will enjoy it when I'm in deep somewhere enjoying my hobbies, or at least having a failover connection at home.

One of our network architects has that and uses it heavily with a higher bandwidth plan when traveling.
I've got an Iridium satellite phone at work for emergencies, but considering it's now 15+ years old and the 10 minute/month plan is $80, I'm looking at switching over.
 

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@mmckenna - I plan on keeping the $8 Garmin Iridium plan as well. I clip that on to the belt as I venture beyond the vehicle and the button press is simple for others with me at times.

Starlink is looking to offering satellite cellular service on their own, but that’s several years away. Additionally, the Starlink Mini dish can stay outdoors while I am in a structure, or vehicle, and still route packets/phone calls. We both know cellular satellite will not do that. Also, that access will be shared for others with me and their devices.

My hobbies have increased my middle of nowhere travels of late and the current sale on the mini was what I was waiting for. It also opens the door to get some work done while not at home and enjoy the outdoors. A win-win kind of thing.
 

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The asterisk noted "with compatible phone" leaves many still out in the dark. It also doesn't fix the issue that the phones will not use the satellite texting feature when a site is "live" even if it doesn't have a connection to the network.
 

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The asterisk noted "with compatible phone" leaves many still out in the dark. It also doesn't fix the issue that the phones will not use the satellite texting feature when a site is "live" even if it doesn't have a connection to the network.
Thank you for paying attention. That was our issue, full bars but couldn’t make a phone call, text or browse the internet. And no “SOS” since the phone thought it had service. It was a very unusual situation, but it happened none the less.
 

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Looked at Starlink's website this morning. Saw no mention of the "standby" plan. Do they still not mention that as an option until you sign up for a regular plan?
 

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It is disappointing that no carrier is offering dirt cheap "vanlife special" plans -- think ~$5/month or less for service consisting exclusively of SMS, voice, and possibly e-mail. This would be perfect for people interested in backup phones that live inside their glove boxes, not to mention actual people living in extreme financial distress.

The voice portion could even be provided in the form of VoIP, to circumvent PSTN fees and taxes on both the subscribers' and carriers' behalves.
 

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It is disappointing that no carrier is offering dirt cheap "vanlife special" plans -- think ~$5/month or less for service consisting exclusively of SMS, voice, and possibly e-mail. This would be perfect for people interested in backup phones that live inside their glove boxes, not to mention actual people living in extreme financial distress.

Lifeline service fills this role. It's not going to be $5/month, but it is discounted to the point that most can afford it.

The voice portion could even be provided in the form of VoIP, to circumvent PSTN fees and taxes on both the subscribers' and carriers' behalves.

VoIP doesn't get to ignore FCC Tariff regulations or taxes. Yes, people circumvent the rules, but carriers cannot.
 

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Lifeline service fills this role. It's not going to be $5/month, but it is discounted to the point that most can afford it.
I once looked into converting a relative's legacy copper PSTN line over to lifeline service on the logic the line would never be used except for dialing 911 during cellular outages. Suffice it to say, she was vastly overqualified for the service. I would assume the same limitations apply to the cellular lifeline program.
 

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Looked at Starlink's website this morning. Saw no mention of the "standby" plan. Do they still not mention that as an option until you sign up for a regular plan?
After one signs up, there is an option in the settings to switch to the $5 standby plan. That takes effect once the current plan ends. I think it was prorated and cost me $36 before it switched me over. I did this all via the Starlink app.

On the vehicle I use a mount that has four magnets which hold it firmly on the roof. I use additional straps to the base as well, but it didn’t budge at 65 MPH, nor on poorly maintained bumpy roads. I could aim the dish when destinated, but throughput was fine flat.

I just have it flat on the roof with a rubber cover. Works fine and is low profile inline with my roof rack. For power I purchased a three head option via Amazon. While the vehicle power port works fine, or a battery AC/DC device, I initially tested using a Craftsman 5Ah tool battery connected to a Craftsman AC adapter. It ran fine for over three hours and would have gone more, but I switched it over to try other power sources. It pulls around 25 watts.

The 500kbps data rate is fine for me not only for phone/data/text, but for low throughput on a tablet PC for amateur radio stuff. It is easy to switch over to the 50GB plan using the Starlink app and back again.

It will be a few years before Amazon comes out with their ”LEO” service and devices that will compete.
 

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The asterisk noted "with compatible phone" leaves many still out in the dark.
Very true. For Apple users, only the iPhone 13 series is eligible for T-Mobile’s “T-Sat” free ‘SOS only’ service.
 

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Update for my issue...I sold one of my "luxury" radios to fund a new iPhone for my wife that has the satellite SOS function. So between all the backup power, StarLink and now the satellite iPhone capabilities I think we're covered for emergency communications. I appreciate all the input and banter from everyone.
 

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It works on my Samsung S24 and my Wifes iPhone 15. I get some signal even inside and full bars outside. Try going into the SIM manager and turn off your primary SIM to force it onto the T-Mobile SIM. Maybe it will not try to connect if the primary SIM is on. If it sends on satellite it will be from the phone number of the T-Mobile SIM. If you can get that to work, you may have to try some of the SIM options to get it to switch automatically. Also, even if there are zero bars on the primary line, there may still be usable signal to connect and therefore prevent switching over.

I don't know what you're paying for Internet now, but maybe switching to Starlink might be better for Internet AND redundancy?

Looking at eBay for Sat phones, they are pretty pricey, though there are some from around $80 to $150. The damn calling cards though... That's at least $200 for 100 minutes that's good for 30 days. The card seems to expire in two years though, and according to ChatGPT you can activate via the phone its self without service, but that may or may not work. So that's a wrench in the gears. Especially on the monetary front. But would fit this particular issue.

I like the pedestal idea though. If you know where one is now that could be a benefit. But, what if POTS is down? I'm sure a lot of it is on a pole, you know?

Me being just me, I would never trust the cellular or POTS network during an act of God. Especially when public safety has high priority to use what may be a highly congested cell tower. I'd personally want to gravitate towards Satellite. So Starlink, InReach or T-mobile's Sat offering. Everything else HF... Well, in regards to SHTF sort of stuff at least.

I'm sorry about your predicament. I'm in the same rusty boat. My parents are not in the best of shape and my dad's kidneys are going way south and I'm betting he'll be in dialysis soon. While that's going on my mom needs a biopsy of a mass in her thyroid. She already had one half removed. Both parents take a freaking pharmacy in medication. One of which is a real wallet burner (Thanks Pfizer) since it's an FDA tier 1 (?) drug. I get tier 3 and tier 1 mixed up. Which ever is the most price rapey. Speaking of which, I always curse the TV with the big pharma Ads. Even have a bumper sticker that reads, "Ask your doctor if 25 pages of side effects is right for you!" To that end, I personally think there's a cure for cancer. All the millions and millions donated, the pink ribbon crap done to license plates and socks to the 4k run and walks. And God forbid you get cancer (I probably will one day). You lose your house, car, job, life savings - EVERYTHING, just to go to an expensive cancer treatment center, take experimental drugs (to their marketing/research benefit) and maybe live another two years or whatever. I say this because I've had more family members and family friends die of cancer I lost count. I'd have to literally think now how many there were. And yet Magic Johnson with full blown AIDS lives and lived past COVID.... Hmmmm. Money talks, BS walks.

On the subject of seizures, my sister went through that as a teenager. Just out of the blue she'd drop. I'll never forget back then as teenagers we both we're going back and fourth about who would die first. Right then and there she dropped and had a seizure. Unreal! Later on in the years they just went away. I have to wonder about our poisonous food... and maybe some of the vaccines. Though, I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but there's some interesting crap there... But that's a whole four paragraphs worth. I mean, on the subject of poisonous food - for God sakes, you drink a cup of tea not knowing just how much pesticide they probably sprayed on the tea leaves, you know? Now the U.S. is finally getting rid of dyes in food. Europe has been doing stuff like that and more for years!

At any rate, I think it's fare to say we all go through our own personal hell in this world. One person may look at another and think they have everything, they're all perfect and whatnot but don't know the actual truth... Life is school.

I yield back the balance of my time.
I refuse to be a burden on my wife. Cancer diagnosis with me would be a visit to Drs. Smith & Wesson or a one way trip to Mexico on Nembutol Airlines.
 

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I refuse to be a burden on my wife. Cancer diagnosis with me would be a visit to Drs. Smith & Wesson or a one way trip to Mexico on Nembutol Airlines.
First of all, I am no doctor. Duck duck go dog dewormer and cancer. YMMV...
 

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Not a big deal for me since my SL is a backup to a backup, but the 10GB roam is going away (for me at least)...

We’re reaching out because you have a Starlink subscribed to Roam - 10GB | (Mini). In 30 days, your plan will be discontinued. To avoid any interruption, your service will automatically move to Standby Mode at the start of your next billing cycle.


  • Your monthly bill will be decrease to 5.0 USD
  • Based on your recent usage, Standby Mode should continue to meet your needs
  • No action is required if this option works for you
 

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Not a big deal for me since my SL is a backup to a backup, but the 10GB roam is going away (for me at least)...

We’re reaching out because you have a Starlink subscribed to Roam - 10GB | (Mini). In 30 days, your plan will be discontinued. To avoid any interruption, your service will automatically move to Standby Mode at the start of your next billing cycle.


  • Your monthly bill will be decrease to 5.0 USD
  • Based on your recent usage, Standby Mode should continue to meet your needs
  • No action is required if this option works for you
Is the $5 a month SL Mini still an offered deal? Should I get one for a mobile hotspot?
 
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