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Buying a XPR5550

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I think I'm going to try to buy one of these. Cool color display, why not?
Been buying different XPR's for a little while now, but currently we are still analog. At some point in time, we will be going MotoTrbo. No idea if it will be a single site, multi-sites, or whatever.

I'm looking in the basic service manual and see three choices for the 9th character in the part number:
A. Conventional.
B. Trunking.
C. Analog only.

Does it really matter which of the first two I buy, if I'm unsure what kind of system we are going to end up with?
 

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I think I'm going to try to buy one of these. Cool color display, why not?
Been buying different XPR's for a little while now, but currently we are still analog. At some point in time, we will be going MotoTrbo. No idea if it will be a single site, multi-sites, or whatever.

I'm looking in the basic service manual and see three choices for the 9th character in the part number:
A. Conventional.
B. Trunking.
C. Analog only.

Does it really matter which of the first two I buy, if I'm unsure what kind of system we are going to end up with?

They will only do 12.5 bandwidth. The CPS has the option but when you try to write it you get a error.
 

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I think that logic dictates that until you know what kind of system you're going into you shouldn't buy anything. The original 6000 series TRBOs were TRBO and analog FM, but this new bunch of stuff appears to require some choices to be made that you didn't used to have to make.
 

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Currently they are only available in the UHF models with two power levels, 1-25 watts and 25-40 watts. They will do Analog, or Digital and with proper entitlement Capacity plus trunking and IP site connect. Connect Plus and LTR trunking and VHF will be available in future releases.

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Currently they are only available in the UHF models with two power levels, 1-25 watts and 25-40 watts. They will do Analog, or Digital and with proper entitlement Capacity plus trunking and IP site connect. Connect Plus and LTR trunking and VHF will be available in future releases.

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They've been available in VHF for a few years now... I've had my VHF XPR6550 for 2 years.
 

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Thanks to all

Currently they are only available in the UHF models with two power levels, 1-25 watts and 25-40 watts. They will do Analog, or Digital and with proper entitlement Capacity plus trunking and IP site connect. Connect Plus and LTR trunking and VHF will be available in future releases.

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Thanks to all.
We already know what freqs we will be on (UHF), that part just involves license modification for existing frequencies. The character in question in the model number gives a choice of a trunking radio or a conventional radio, or analog only radio. I think based upon suggestions here, I will hold off on buying one yet
 

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I'm not sure where you got your information about the model number but I can assure you the new XPR5000 series (i.e. XPR5550) has only two UHF models (1-25 watts and 25-40 watts) currently and they both do analog or digital. The type of "trunking" (capacity plus/connect plus) is added with an entitlement firmware from Motorola. Connect Plus will be supported in a future release. There was an older (now discontinued) model that could be ordered with only analog or only digital.

So you can purchase them now and program them with analog and/or digital frequencies. Later if you go to some type of trunking you purchase the entitlement firmware.

Hope this helps!
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I'm not sure where you got your information about the model number but I can assure you the new XPR5000 series (i.e. XPR5550) has only two UHF models (1-25 watts and 25-40 watts) currently and they both do analog or digital. The type of "trunking" (capacity plus/connect plus) is added with an entitlement firmware from Motorola. Connect Plus will be supported in a future release. There was an older (now discontinued) model that could be ordered with only analog or only digital.

So you can purchase them now and program them with analog and/or digital frequencies. Later if you go to some type of trunking you purchase the entitlement firmware.

Hope this helps!
BB

The model breakdown I have is out of Motorola's Service Manual for the XPR5000 series radios.
The ninth character in the model number gives three choices:

A. Conventional.
B. Trunking.
C. Analog only.

I was thinking Door Number 3 meant I can't program digital into the radio.

But if you say that, despite what the Motorola Service Manual says, the analog only version will also do digital, I'll go ahead and get the analog, it's the best price.

Thanks for the help.
 
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The other gentleman is correct. There is no 'analog only' version of the new XPR5000 series of radios. All models will do both analog (narrowband) and digital.

I'm not sure what you're looking at, because the 9th character in the model number is a 'digit', not a 'letter'. For the XPR5550, it's a '9':

AAM28QNN9KA1AN - UHF (403-470 mhz) 1-25 watt
AAM28QPN9KA1AN - UHF (403-470 mhz) 25-40 watt

John Rayfield, Jr. CETma

The model breakdown I have is out of Motorola's Service Manual for the XPR5000 series radios.
The ninth character in the model number gives three choices:

A. Conventional.
B. Trunking.
C. Analog only.

I was thinking Door Number 3 meant I can't program digital into the radio.

But if you say that, despite what the Motorola Service Manual says, the analog only version will also do digital, I'll go ahead and get the analog, it's the best price.

Thanks for the help.
 

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I stand corrected

The other gentleman is correct. There is no 'analog only' version of the new XPR5000 series of radios. All models will do both analog (narrowband) and digital.

I'm not sure what you're looking at, because the 9th character in the model number is a 'digit', not a 'letter'. For the XPR5550, it's a '9':

AAM28QNN9KA1AN - UHF (403-470 mhz) 1-25 watt
AAM28QPN9KA1AN - UHF (403-470 mhz) 25-40 watt

John Rayfield, Jr. CETma

Mr. Rayfield, you are absolutely correct. I stand corrected.
The model breakdown chart I am looking at does not include the first two characters, AA.
It's actually the 11th character, which the model breakdown chart calls the 9th position.
That was messing me up, sorry 'bout that.

And like I have been saying, the choices for the 9th position (11th character) are:
A. Conventional.
B. Trunking.
C. Analog only.

This chart is on page 1-4 of the XPR5000 series Basic Service Manual.
 

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That model number breakdown is a bit weird - actually, it's not really 100% correct. The standard models (the model numbers that I posted) are for digital conventional, narrowband analog conventional, and they include Capacity Plus digital trunking.

John Rayfield, Jr. CETma

Mr. Rayfield, you are absolutely correct. I stand corrected.
The model breakdown chart I am looking at does not include the first two characters, AA.
It's actually the 11th character, which the model breakdown chart calls the 9th position.
That was messing me up, sorry 'bout that.

And like I have been saying, the choices for the 9th position (11th character) are:
A. Conventional.
B. Trunking.
C. Analog only.

This chart is on page 1-4 of the XPR5000 series Basic Service Manual.
 

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Thanks for the help

That model number breakdown is a bit weird - actually, it's not really 100% correct. The standard models (the model numbers that I posted) are for digital conventional, narrowband analog conventional, and they include Capacity Plus digital trunking.

John Rayfield, Jr. CETma

All right sir, thank you for the help.
 

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I took a look at the chart in the manual. While the model number chart may show something (a 'feature' for 'function'), that doesn't mean that a model of radio is actually available that includes that 'feature' or 'function'. For example, while the chart shows an "analog only' designator, there are no 'analog only' MOTOTRBO radios available anymore. They were discontinued a couple of years ago (at least). So, this chart is therefore only a 'reference', to indicate how a specific model number may be 'read'. It is not an indication of what models, with 'functions', are available today. The dealer price books and Motorola Online show that information.

As to the 'conventional' and 'trunking' designators, you'll notice that this section of the chart is labeled "Primary Operation". Why they show 'conventional' and 'trunked' as separate designators, when the radios will do both conventional and Capacity Plus trunking, I have no idea. A person would think that they would have another designator to indicate that a radio model would do both, but they didn't. I guess they consider this radio (the XPR5550) to be 'primarily' a conventional radio. I can see why this would be confusing. But, I assure you, the XPR5550 does operate in analog, digital conventional, and digital trunking (Capacity Plus) modes, all in one model.

John Rayfield, Jr. CETma

Mr. Rayfield, you are absolutely correct. I stand corrected.
The model breakdown chart I am looking at does not include the first two characters, AA.
It's actually the 11th character, which the model breakdown chart calls the 9th position.
That was messing me up, sorry 'bout that.

And like I have been saying, the choices for the 9th position (11th character) are:
A. Conventional.
B. Trunking.
C. Analog only.

This chart is on page 1-4 of the XPR5000 series Basic Service Manual.
 

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Loving the 5550's

We have a couple running at a small municipality, and they are great. Our next phase will be to put them in the 15-20 Sheriff's department vehicles. They are already outfitted with XPR6550's for portables, and are awaiting the activation of 3 more TRBO IP Site Connect Repeaters. We also have a couple of SL7550's and XPR7550's in service. Great product line. People can keep their P25's and we will keep the $$$change.
 
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