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ScannerPaul

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A better system? The system that comes out of the likes of Firescope. Where stakeholders and subject matter experts meet, collaborate, communicate, share.
Even more interesting 🤔... I came across those folks the other day....you know their meeting this January in Pismo I don't recall what day...
So you feel like the big comms business affecting stakeholders and ownership being divided will have a negative impact on interoperability?
Thus cutting communications when it's needed?
 

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No, sorry if I wasn't clear earlier. Big Comms business is gonna do what any business will do, oversell and under-deliver, and have weasel words hidden in the bid to get out of liability. The bid for the system near me is 268 pages. On page 72 is one line that says, "portable coverage inside buildings and vehicles is not a design requirement for this system and is, therefore, not guaranteed." Except a few of us think the fire department is expecting tactical fireground on the system. Oops. They aren't the cause of broken interop or not being able to talk to the neighbor and vice versa. They just chase the bottom dollar like everyone.

Divided ownership is also 100% natural and not the cause of any issue. A city, county, agency etc will own their system, and should have funding to support it.

Interop is an attitude, not a technology. Fix the attitude. Fire across the entire state has had it solved for a while. Law is so far up their own wazoo and digging deeper with these isolated islands of encryption, it's going to be real painful for a while. Do you know your neighbors on all sides of you? Do you know their names, have their phone numbers, and even have alternate numbers for maybe their kids or parents so you can call someone if they don't answer? Do you invite them over for a glass of wine once in a while? BBQ? If yes to all of that, you have the attitude needed for interop. If not, congrats, expand that mindset to an agency, sprinkle a little narcissism and, "our way is the right way, you bend to us, we don't bend to anyone" and the problem becomes clear as day.

edit: getting pretty far off the thread topic. But I’ll preach interop anywhere I can.
 
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It seems to me that law enforcement, in general, has less routine requirement for interop than fire does, so it's at least somewhat understandable. I wonder if individual incidents, like January 6, 2021, might have motivated some improvement (if needed) in DC?
 

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It seems to me that law enforcement, in general, has less routine requirement for interop than fire does, so it's at least somewhat understandable. I wonder if individual incidents, like January 6, 2021, might have motivated some improvement (if needed) in DC?

Not really, at least in CA. There are a lot of places where there’s overlapping/confusing jurisdictions. Just down the street from me is a spot where CHP, county sheriffs and local police all have different jurisdictions and it all comes down to a matter of feet and type of incident. You also have stuff like vehicle chases or man hunts. There have been a few times where they are setting up an perimeter to catch a fugitive and officer from other agencies coming to help pull into line of fire because they couldn’t talk to the agency in charge.
 

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Not to hijack the CHP thread or anything, but since some folks are local, has anyone heard of a new NAC for Bakersfield Police channel 6? Or did they go encrypted? I’ve been scanning that channel for months on my Unication g3 and as or recently I’m noticing the Shield on the screen indicating that traffic is being received but it’s encrypted. If anyone could help out that would be great!
 

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Not to hijack the CHP thread or anything, but since some folks are local, has anyone heard of a new NAC for Bakersfield Police channel 6? Or did they go encrypted? I’ve been scanning that channel for months on my Unication g3 and as or recently I’m noticing the Shield on the screen indicating that traffic is being received but it’s encrypted. If anyone could help out that would be great!

As far as I know, the NAC is correct and every time I’ve heard it, it’s been encrypted.
 

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I have not looked at that channel for a few months but I tried it on my TRX one and I show carrier with encrypted squabble..
I don't know when they started encryption on that..
 

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Just a heads up, seems partially encrypted. Some radios receive just fine others are encrypted. Not sure but just heard it with two people talking on BPD6.
 
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